diff --git a/book/2005-02.txt b/book/2005-02.txt index e12bed4..57a224c 100644 --- a/book/2005-02.txt +++ b/book/2005-02.txt @@ -567,7 +567,7 @@ Integers, thus enabling assumptons in Mathematicas sense. In fact, there has been done a lot of work already, but it appears that the code is lost: I recently sent a mail to Christele.Faure@sophia.inria.fr, -J.H.Davenport@bath.ac.uk, Hanane.Naciri@sophia.inria.fr, +James Davenport, Hanane.Naciri@sophia.inria.fr, Manuel Bronstein but it was never answered. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ diff --git a/book/2007-08.txt b/book/2007-08.txt index 1ec2a7a..c92032a 100644 --- a/book/2007-08.txt +++ b/book/2007-08.txt @@ -3,12 +3,7 @@ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 02:13:23 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <437999.12231.qm@web56714.mail.re3.yahoo.com> - - <54hcnkuiif.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <87y7gw3sb2.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: Camm Maguire, - list +Cc: Camm Maguire On 31 Jul 2007 22:24:49 -0400, Stephen Wilson wrote: > Camm Maguire writes: @@ -83,18 +78,11 @@ the APL2 non-commercial use clause would make that any less likely. I agree that it is worth a lot, but personally would not want to put a monetary value on it. :) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 02:51:37 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <437999.12231.qm@web56714.mail.re3.yahoo.com> -Cc: list On 7/31/07, C Y wrote: > --- Bill Page wrote: @@ -114,17 +102,11 @@ having both an upper and lower dot? (See http://wiki.axiom-developer.org ) Maybe that is what makes it sufficiently unique? -Regards, -Bill Page - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 06:23:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC To: Bill Page -Cc: list +Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC --- Bill Page wrote: @@ -232,24 +214,11 @@ any of this sort of activity, as I understand it. It's about being part of the community, not just making use of the community labor pool. -Cheers, -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's -Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. -http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 - - - \start +Date: 01 Aug 2007 09:25:22 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 01 Aug 2007 09:25:22 -0500 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -267,19 +236,11 @@ You still have the opportunity to go to the Aldor workshop and disucss that with Stephen. Assuming you're interested in Aldor. If you're not, then... --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 01 Aug 2007 09:27:59 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ondrej Certik Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <945674.14911.qm@web56707.mail.re3.yahoo.com> - - <85b5c3130707310803w14eec399i883e3d7af0edb2d7@mail.gmail.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 01 Aug 2007 09:27:59 -0500 -Cc: list Ondrej Certik writes: @@ -291,16 +252,11 @@ Ondrej Certik writes: The linux distribution I've been for a decade now has a button that let me install "non-open source" software of highly practical value to me. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 01 Aug 2007 09:30:26 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 01 Aug 2007 09:30:26 -0500 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -312,16 +268,11 @@ Cliff Yapp writes: Nobody prevents you from building an Aldor compiler, written in Lisp for example. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 01 Aug 2007 09:38:11 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 01 Aug 2007 09:38:11 -0500 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -337,15 +288,10 @@ more productive than pure speculation. So I asked him. And he answered. And the answer was reported here. But, I suspect pure speculation has higher value than the real thing. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Camm Maguire -From: Stephen Wilson Date: 01 Aug 2007 10:55:34 -0400 -Cc: axiom-devel +From: Stephen Wilson +To: Camm Maguire Subject: gclcvs-2.7.0 and Axiom Hello Camm, @@ -392,20 +338,11 @@ problem could be, or perhaps suggest a technique to debug it. If there is anything I can do to provide more information please let me know. - -Many thanks, -Steve - - - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 08:09:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC --- Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -451,24 +388,11 @@ Anyway, it's a fairly moot point. As you state, both the license text and clear intent statements are available. Each of us will make his/her own decisions in light of that information. -Cheers, -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. -http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 08:17:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list - +Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC --- Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -486,23 +410,11 @@ Indeed, Steve's new compiler may end up looking like that - we'll see. If Aldor and the new compiler are both able to compile the Axiom Algebra that's the best case scenario. -Cheers, -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? -Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. -http://tv.yahoo.com/ - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 10:51:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC -Cc: list On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, C Y wrote: @@ -518,16 +430,11 @@ Aldor workshop and voice their concerns in face-to-face meetings. I know some people already booked; I would encourage others to consider attending. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 10:52:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC -Cc: list On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, C Y wrote: @@ -551,29 +458,15 @@ On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, C Y wrote: I think Aldor.org would not mind a second implementation -- at least, when the question was raised, the answer was "go for it!". --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 11:55:57 -0400 From: Didier Deshommes To: list Subject: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <4db014670707311014qeca4f49rdd96e24823c02b55@mail.gmail.com> - - <4db014670707311754l6b57def7q3aa7b4b746b2c384@mail.gmail.com> - <873az459y5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4db014670708010853i17d55f25t8204f9ea4ad5fa48@mail.gmail.com> (Sorry, meant to send this to the whole list) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- -From: didier deshommes Didier Deshommes -Date: 1 ao=FBt 2007 11:53 -Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC -To: Stephen Wilson - 31 Jul 2007 21:18:26 -0400, Stephen Wilson: > FYI, this is already being seriously pursued in an experimental branch @@ -587,17 +480,11 @@ same goals as Aldor? Does it aim to be compatible with Aldor? Any information providing some kind of comparison of this vs Aldor would be appreciated. -didier - - - \start +Date: 01 Aug 2007 14:13:56 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 01 Aug 2007 14:13:56 -0400 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > | Indeed, Steve's new compiler may end up looking like that - we'll see. @@ -611,22 +498,11 @@ I am not going to re-implement Aldor. I am going to re-implement SPAD, along with some features Aldor already has, and some features Aldor does not. - - -Take care, -Steve - - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 13:44:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - - <87ir7z3yxn.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -644,16 +520,11 @@ On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: As ever, I prefer facts to speculations; thanks for setting the record straight. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 01 Aug 2007 14:07:07 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 01 Aug 2007 14:07:07 -0500 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -673,22 +544,11 @@ any case, I would refrain from making such ownership claim until/unless formally established, and NAG steps forward and makes a public statement to the effect. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 01 Aug 2007 15:07:29 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Didier Deshommes Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <4db014670707311014qeca4f49rdd96e24823c02b55@mail.gmail.com> - - <4db014670707311754l6b57def7q3aa7b4b746b2c384@mail.gmail.com> - <873az459y5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4db014670708010853i17d55f25t8204f9ea4ad5fa48@mail.gmail.com> - <4db014670708010855j3ab881eq9ea396ddda662c12@mail.gmail.com> -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 01 Aug 2007 15:07:29 -0400 -Cc: list Didier, @@ -741,26 +601,11 @@ The current work is only suitable for developers but there will certainly be `public' releases made incrementally to keep `on-track' for an eventual merge with the canonical Axiom sources. - -Take care, -Steve - - - - \start +Date: 01 Aug 2007 14:34:07 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Didier Deshommes Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <4db014670707311014qeca4f49rdd96e24823c02b55@mail.gmail.com> - - <4db014670707311754l6b57def7q3aa7b4b746b2c384@mail.gmail.com> - <873az459y5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4db014670708010853i17d55f25t8204f9ea4ad5fa48@mail.gmail.com> - <4db014670708010855j3ab881eq9ea396ddda662c12@mail.gmail.com> - <87ejin3wge.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 01 Aug 2007 14:34:07 -0500 -Cc: list Stephen Wilson writes: @@ -777,17 +622,11 @@ parser as a library -- as has been done the algorithmic differentiation project. You don't need to wait for a functional new compiler to do that. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:46:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list - +Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC --- Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -832,30 +671,11 @@ dispostion of the Axiom name to be decided? I don't see quite how we are going to make those decisions. -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. -http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow - - - \start +Date: 01 Aug 2007 15:57:14 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <4db014670707311014qeca4f49rdd96e24823c02b55@mail.gmail.com> - - <4db014670707311754l6b57def7q3aa7b4b746b2c384@mail.gmail.com> - <873az459y5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4db014670708010853i17d55f25t8204f9ea4ad5fa48@mail.gmail.com> - <4db014670708010855j3ab881eq9ea396ddda662c12@mail.gmail.com> - <87ejin3wge.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87odhrvykw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 01 Aug 2007 15:57:14 -0400 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -880,18 +700,11 @@ the representation past the lexical analysis phase contain line and column number information? Is the current implementation easily modifiable and extensible? -Steve - - - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 15:05:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC -Cc: list On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, C Y wrote: @@ -943,25 +756,12 @@ I'm under the impression that APL2 is a modified BSD license with non-commercial use clause added. At least three people on different sides on the issue concurred on that view. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 01 Aug 2007 16:05:11 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <4db014670707311014qeca4f49rdd96e24823c02b55@mail.gmail.com> - - <4db014670707311754l6b57def7q3aa7b4b746b2c384@mail.gmail.com> - <873az459y5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4db014670708010853i17d55f25t8204f9ea4ad5fa48@mail.gmail.com> - <4db014670708010855j3ab881eq9ea396ddda662c12@mail.gmail.com> - <87ejin3wge.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87odhrvykw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87abtb3u5h.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 01 Aug 2007 16:05:11 -0400 -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Stephen Wilson writes: @@ -992,26 +792,11 @@ Stephen Wilson writes: Moreover, you do not need to wait for a functional new compiler. The parser, as I said, is around 90% complete. -Steve - - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 15:07:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <4db014670707311014qeca4f49rdd96e24823c02b55@mail.gmail.com> - - <4db014670707311754l6b57def7q3aa7b4b746b2c384@mail.gmail.com> - <873az459y5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4db014670708010853i17d55f25t8204f9ea4ad5fa48@mail.gmail.com> - <4db014670708010855j3ab881eq9ea396ddda662c12@mail.gmail.com> - <87ejin3wge.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87odhrvykw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87abtb3u5h.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -1048,16 +833,11 @@ The new compiler/parser can also compiler library codes -- through the connection is not present in Silver, but requires only few lines of code. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 13:22:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC --- Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > @@ -1084,22 +864,11 @@ That's fine, but it is still incompatible and the intent is that it be incompatible (at least with the GPL). The issue at hand remains - what course does the Axiom Project take? -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. -http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 15:28:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC -Cc: list On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, C Y wrote: @@ -1116,26 +885,11 @@ of pressing issues, directions, etc. I would have thought interested people would be very willing to take on the opportunity to meet face to face and discuss what they believe in. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 01 Aug 2007 16:28:36 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <4db014670707311014qeca4f49rdd96e24823c02b55@mail.gmail.com> - - <4db014670707311754l6b57def7q3aa7b4b746b2c384@mail.gmail.com> - <873az459y5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4db014670708010853i17d55f25t8204f9ea4ad5fa48@mail.gmail.com> - <4db014670708010855j3ab881eq9ea396ddda662c12@mail.gmail.com> - <87ejin3wge.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87odhrvykw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87abtb3u5h.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 01 Aug 2007 16:28:36 -0400 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > You can answer all those questions by looking at the source code. @@ -1144,29 +898,11 @@ I have looked at the source code. There is a difference in terms of functionality and applicability which the new parser is designed to accommodate and which the old parsers are not. -Steve - - - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 15:32:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <4db014670707311014qeca4f49rdd96e24823c02b55@mail.gmail.com> - - <4db014670707311754l6b57def7q3aa7b4b746b2c384@mail.gmail.com> - <873az459y5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4db014670708010853i17d55f25t8204f9ea4ad5fa48@mail.gmail.com> - <4db014670708010855j3ab881eq9ea396ddda662c12@mail.gmail.com> - <87ejin3wge.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87odhrvykw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87abtb3u5h.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <871wen3sp7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -1178,28 +914,11 @@ On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: Excellent. For some reasons, I was under the impression that you looked at the code before starting your new compiler. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 01 Aug 2007 16:36:19 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <4db014670707311014qeca4f49rdd96e24823c02b55@mail.gmail.com> - - <4db014670707311754l6b57def7q3aa7b4b746b2c384@mail.gmail.com> - <873az459y5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4db014670708010853i17d55f25t8204f9ea4ad5fa48@mail.gmail.com> - <4db014670708010855j3ab881eq9ea396ddda662c12@mail.gmail.com> - <87ejin3wge.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87odhrvykw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87abtb3u5h.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <871wen3sp7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 01 Aug 2007 16:36:19 -0400 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > Excellent. For some reasons, I was under the impression that you looked @@ -1207,30 +926,11 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: Speculation? -Steve - - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 15:42:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <4db014670707311014qeca4f49rdd96e24823c02b55@mail.gmail.com> - - <4db014670707311754l6b57def7q3aa7b4b746b2c384@mail.gmail.com> - <873az459y5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4db014670708010853i17d55f25t8204f9ea4ad5fa48@mail.gmail.com> - <4db014670708010855j3ab881eq9ea396ddda662c12@mail.gmail.com> - <87ejin3wge.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87odhrvykw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87abtb3u5h.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <871wen3sp7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87wswf2drw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -1243,30 +943,11 @@ On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: I did not speculate. That is why I said if you read the code, you can answer your questions. If turned out than you didn't. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 01 Aug 2007 16:54:06 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <4db014670707311014qeca4f49rdd96e24823c02b55@mail.gmail.com> - - <4db014670707311754l6b57def7q3aa7b4b746b2c384@mail.gmail.com> - <873az459y5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4db014670708010853i17d55f25t8204f9ea4ad5fa48@mail.gmail.com> - <4db014670708010855j3ab881eq9ea396ddda662c12@mail.gmail.com> - <87ejin3wge.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87odhrvykw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87abtb3u5h.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <871wen3sp7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87wswf2drw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 01 Aug 2007 16:54:06 -0400 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -1292,34 +973,11 @@ might have actually read the code. Many apologies. But for the record, the answers to my original questions are no, no, no, and no. Dont ask me how I know this. - -Steve - - - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 15:58:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <4db014670707311014qeca4f49rdd96e24823c02b55@mail.gmail.com> - - <4db014670707311754l6b57def7q3aa7b4b746b2c384@mail.gmail.com> - <873az459y5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4db014670708010853i17d55f25t8204f9ea4ad5fa48@mail.gmail.com> - <4db014670708010855j3ab881eq9ea396ddda662c12@mail.gmail.com> - <87ejin3wge.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87odhrvykw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87abtb3u5h.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <871wen3sp7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87wswf2drw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87r6mn2cy9.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -1335,17 +993,12 @@ I did not mean too. Oh well, ainsi va la vie. (1) Which, of course, are untrue. (2) And, as expected, your questions were rhetorical. --- Gaby - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 14:00:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list - +Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC --- Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > @@ -1366,21 +1019,11 @@ that sort impractical for me. What about an IRC meeting? That at least is real time, even if it can't be face to face. -CY - - - ____________________________________________________________________________________ -Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. -http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:04:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC -Cc: list On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, C Y wrote: @@ -1393,34 +1036,11 @@ On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, C Y wrote: | Unfortunately personal and financial constraints make a long trip of | that sort impractical for me. -Of course. - --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 01 Aug 2007 17:13:19 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <4db014670707311014qeca4f49rdd96e24823c02b55@mail.gmail.com> - - <4db014670707311754l6b57def7q3aa7b4b746b2c384@mail.gmail.com> - <873az459y5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4db014670708010853i17d55f25t8204f9ea4ad5fa48@mail.gmail.com> - <4db014670708010855j3ab881eq9ea396ddda662c12@mail.gmail.com> - <87ejin3wge.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87odhrvykw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87abtb3u5h.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <871wen3sp7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87wswf2drw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87r6mn2cy9.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 01 Aug 2007 17:13:19 -0400 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > (1) Which, of course, are untrue. @@ -1448,35 +1068,11 @@ I will be more than happy to discount your autoconf patch when it is ready based on the fact that we already have a build system which more or less works, if your interested in that kind of collaboration. -Take care, -Steve - - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:30:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <4db014670707311014qeca4f49rdd96e24823c02b55@mail.gmail.com> - - <4db014670707311754l6b57def7q3aa7b4b746b2c384@mail.gmail.com> - <873az459y5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4db014670708010853i17d55f25t8204f9ea4ad5fa48@mail.gmail.com> - <4db014670708010855j3ab881eq9ea396ddda662c12@mail.gmail.com> - <87ejin3wge.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87odhrvykw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87abtb3u5h.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <871wen3sp7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87wswf2drw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87r6mn2cy9.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87lkcv2c28.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -1539,52 +1135,20 @@ it as "celebrated". Anyway, I'm quite amazed. You must have a serious problem. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 01 Aug 2007 17:50:17 -0400 +From: Camm Maguire To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: gclcvs-2.7.0 and Axiom -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 01 Aug 2007 17:50:17 -0400 -Cc: axiom-devel Greetings! Will try to take a look this evening -- thanks so much for the report! -More later, --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - \start +Date: 01 Aug 2007 18:03:08 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <4db014670707311014qeca4f49rdd96e24823c02b55@mail.gmail.com> - - <4db014670707311754l6b57def7q3aa7b4b746b2c384@mail.gmail.com> - <873az459y5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4db014670708010853i17d55f25t8204f9ea4ad5fa48@mail.gmail.com> - <4db014670708010855j3ab881eq9ea396ddda662c12@mail.gmail.com> - <87ejin3wge.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87odhrvykw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87abtb3u5h.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <871wen3sp7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87wswf2drw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87r6mn2cy9.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87lkcv2c28.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 01 Aug 2007 18:03:08 -0400 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -1636,19 +1200,12 @@ explain. If you dont understand the issues, thats your problem. > | or less works, if your interested in that kind of collaboration. > > You must have a serious problem. -> -> -- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 01 Aug 2007 18:54:45 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: gclcvs-2.7.0 and Axiom - <54643yj55y.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 01 Aug 2007 18:54:45 -0400 -Cc: axiom-devel --=-=-= @@ -2005,19 +1562,11 @@ index fe3cf7a..5c6116d 100644 --=-=-=-- - - - \start Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 01:05:22 +0200 From: Ondrej Certik To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <945674.14911.qm@web56707.mail.re3.yahoo.com> - - <85b5c3130707310803w14eec399i883e3d7af0edb2d7@mail.gmail.com> - <87643zs51s.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -Cc: list > | So it cannot go to the Debian main distribution, and that of course is > | a major problem, at least for me. @@ -2029,21 +1578,11 @@ The technical thing is not a problem - it will be in the Debian non-free and thus could be installed as easily as anything else. The major problem for me is simply that it is not opensource. -Ondrej - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 19:34:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ondrej Certik Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <945674.14911.qm@web56707.mail.re3.yahoo.com> - - <85b5c3130707310803w14eec399i883e3d7af0edb2d7@mail.gmail.com> - <87643zs51s.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <85b5c3130708011605y35805861q6484d65c9da39863@mail.gmail.com> -Cc: list On Thu, 2 Aug 2007, Ondrej Certik wrote: @@ -2062,34 +1601,11 @@ OK. OK; thanks for clarifying that. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 19:35:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - - <4db014670707311754l6b57def7q3aa7b4b746b2c384@mail.gmail.com> - <873az459y5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4db014670708010853i17d55f25t8204f9ea4ad5fa48@mail.gmail.com> - <4db014670708010855j3ab881eq9ea396ddda662c12@mail.gmail.com> - <87ejin3wge.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87odhrvykw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87abtb3u5h.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <871wen3sp7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87wswf2drw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87r6mn2cy9.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87lkcv2c28.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87d4y63obn.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -2102,34 +1618,11 @@ On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: Indeed, Earth is flat. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 19:36:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - - <4db014670707311754l6b57def7q3aa7b4b746b2c384@mail.gmail.com> - <873az459y5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4db014670708010853i17d55f25t8204f9ea4ad5fa48@mail.gmail.com> - <4db014670708010855j3ab881eq9ea396ddda662c12@mail.gmail.com> - <87ejin3wge.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87odhrvykw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87abtb3u5h.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <871wen3sp7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87wswf2drw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87r6mn2cy9.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87lkcv2c28.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87d4y63obn.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -2137,34 +1630,11 @@ On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: No, I have no problem. You have a problem. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 19:38:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - - <4db014670707311754l6b57def7q3aa7b4b746b2c384@mail.gmail.com> - <873az459y5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4db014670708010853i17d55f25t8204f9ea4ad5fa48@mail.gmail.com> - <4db014670708010855j3ab881eq9ea396ddda662c12@mail.gmail.com> - <87ejin3wge.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87odhrvykw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87abtb3u5h.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <871wen3sp7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87wswf2drw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87r6mn2cy9.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87lkcv2c28.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87d4y63obn.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -2184,35 +1654,11 @@ On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: In light of your postings, it is legitime to have profound doubt about the last sentence. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 01 Aug 2007 21:09:35 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - - <4db014670707311754l6b57def7q3aa7b4b746b2c384@mail.gmail.com> - <873az459y5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4db014670708010853i17d55f25t8204f9ea4ad5fa48@mail.gmail.com> - <4db014670708010855j3ab881eq9ea396ddda662c12@mail.gmail.com> - <87ejin3wge.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87odhrvykw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87abtb3u5h.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <871wen3sp7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87wswf2drw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87r6mn2cy9.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87lkcv2c28.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87d4y63obn.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 01 Aug 2007 21:09:35 -0400 -Cc: list Gaby, @@ -2230,68 +1676,32 @@ Unfortunately, I read meaning into your initial comments about the parser work which you may not have intended. I apologize for allowing a debate to ensue which took a tone I would have much rather avoided. -Sincerely, -Steve - - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 21:50:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: list Subject: LastCxArg - It looks to me that the variable $LastCxArg in the routine /foobar from src/interp/spad.lisp is a type for |$LastCxArg|. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 22:00:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: list Subject: sequence - When compiling with an ANSI common lisp compiler, the use of "sequence" in src/interp/parsing.lisp is resoled as referring to the standard symbol sequence, which belongs to locked standard packages. I would suggest to rename it to rule-sequence, and propagate the change down to the parser. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 22:03:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <4db014670707311754l6b57def7q3aa7b4b746b2c384@mail.gmail.com> - <873az459y5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4db014670708010853i17d55f25t8204f9ea4ad5fa48@mail.gmail.com> - <4db014670708010855j3ab881eq9ea396ddda662c12@mail.gmail.com> - <87ejin3wge.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87odhrvykw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87abtb3u5h.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <871wen3sp7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87wswf2drw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87r6mn2cy9.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87lkcv2c28.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87d4y63obn.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87veby214g.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -2302,15 +1712,11 @@ On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: Apologies accepted. Let's move on technical issues. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 01 Aug 2007 22:10:27 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: list Subject: Re: sequence -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 01 Aug 2007 22:10:27 -0500 Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -2322,19 +1728,11 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: similarly, "count" from the same file conflicts with standard count. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 12:18:57 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <87ejin3wge.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list - -Hi Stephen, > Another example is Aldors generators. It is planned that these will > be supported in the new SPAD as a special case of continuations. @@ -2346,23 +1744,11 @@ solves a problem that cannot be solved easily by an Aldor equivalent? Do you think that SPAD-continuations are important for implementing mathematical algorithms? Examples? -Ralf - - - \start +Date: 02 Aug 2007 12:06:16 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <4db014670707311014qeca4f49rdd96e24823c02b55@mail.gmail.com> - - <4db014670707311754l6b57def7q3aa7b4b746b2c384@mail.gmail.com> - <873az459y5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4db014670708010853i17d55f25t8204f9ea4ad5fa48@mail.gmail.com> - <4db014670708010855j3ab881eq9ea396ddda662c12@mail.gmail.com> - <87ejin3wge.fsf@lattice.localdomain> <46B1AF91.6090509@hemmecke.de> -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 02 Aug 2007 12:06:16 -0400 -Cc: list Hi Ralf, @@ -2407,20 +1793,10 @@ execution (you can use the concept of continuation to implement the notion of a thread) and analysis by a compiler. So, yes, I think they can be important for implementing algorithms. - - -Take care, -Steve - - - - \start Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 18:42:56 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Stephen Wilson - <46B1AF91.6090509@hemmecke.de> <87fy312a6f.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list Subject: Continuations in SPAD > Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -2471,19 +1847,11 @@ http://www.ph.ed.ac.uk/~bj/paraldor/WWW/ I've read that already and it did not yet convince me. I want to see real algebra code that looks natural to implement by means of continuations. - -Ralf - - - \start +Date: 02 Aug 2007 13:38:39 -0400 +From: Camm Maguire To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: gclcvs-2.7.0 and Axiom -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 02 Aug 2007 13:38:39 -0400 -Cc: axiom-devel - -Greetings! Stephen Wilson writes: @@ -2543,43 +1911,10 @@ post more. I take it by 'new' you mean new vis a vis 2.6.8 -- or do you mean not present in a slightly older 2.7.0? If so, what are the date bounds? -Take care, - -> -> Many thanks, -> Steve -> -> -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - \start -To: Ralf Hemmecke - <4db014670707311014qeca4f49rdd96e24823c02b55@mail.gmail.com> - - <4db014670707311754l6b57def7q3aa7b4b746b2c384@mail.gmail.com> - <873az459y5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4db014670708010853i17d55f25t8204f9ea4ad5fa48@mail.gmail.com> - <4db014670708010855j3ab881eq9ea396ddda662c12@mail.gmail.com> - <87ejin3wge.fsf@lattice.localdomain> <46B1AF91.6090509@hemmecke.de> - <87fy312a6f.fsf@lattice.localdomain> <46B20990.8060802@hemmecke.de> -From: Stephen Wilson Date: 02 Aug 2007 14:39:59 -0400 -Cc: list +From: Stephen Wilson +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Continuations in SPAD Hi Ralf, @@ -2621,21 +1956,11 @@ natural fit. I am not really advocating anything new by adopting the notion of continuations in SPAD. - -Take care, -Steve - - - - - \start +Date: 02 Aug 2007 16:05:22 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: gclcvs-2.7.0 and Axiom - <54ir7xygyo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 02 Aug 2007 16:05:22 -0400 -Cc: axiom-devel Camm Maguire writes: @@ -2719,44 +2044,11 @@ last few weeks as I have in the past but this change seems to have occurred between the latest commits 2.7.0-78 and 2.7.0-79 (reading from the debian changelog). - -Thanks again for looking into this, -Steve - -> -> Take care, -> -> > -> > Many thanks, -> > Steve -> > -> > -> > -> > -> > _______________________________________________ -> > Axiom-developer mailing list -> > list -> > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> > -> > -> > -> -> -- -> Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -> ========================================================================== -> "The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - - \start +Date: 02 Aug 2007 16:28:06 -0400 +From: Camm Maguire To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: gclcvs-2.7.0 and Axiom - <54ir7xygyo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <87zm19zoql.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 02 Aug 2007 16:28:06 -0400 -Cc: axiom-devel Greetings, and thanks! Will look at your tree.... @@ -2776,23 +2068,11 @@ make: *** [all] Error 2 How can I get a reproducible failing sequence of commands from failed make output? -Take care, --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - \start +Date: 02 Aug 2007 16:53:18 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: gclcvs-2.7.0 and Axiom - <54ir7xygyo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <87zm19zoql.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <54wswd8yw9.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 02 Aug 2007 16:53:18 -0400 -Cc: axiom-devel Camm Maguire writes: @@ -2837,36 +2117,12 @@ is to issue from the root of the build tree: This is effectively what the makefile invokes and gives a first hand look at the failure. - -Sincerely, -Steve - - -> -> Take care, -> -- -> Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -> ========================================================================== -> "The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - - \start Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 22:30:33 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <871wen3sp7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87wswf2drw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87r6mn2cy9.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87lkcv2c28.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87d4y63obn.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Perviously Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -2929,27 +2185,11 @@ not? If the answer is yes, then some documentation on how to do this would be much more useful than having to refer to the source code. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 21:41:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <871wen3sp7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87wswf2drw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87r6mn2cy9.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87lkcv2c28.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87d4y63obn.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - -Cc: list On Thu, 2 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -2990,15 +2230,10 @@ Not only, it is possible, but it has been done. I fully agree. --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 21:58:53 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list Subject: Parser documentation Bill writes: @@ -3018,15 +2253,10 @@ Gaby writes: Documentation! Excellent! Where? -Tim - - - \start Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 22:02:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: Parser documentation On Thu, 2 Aug 2007, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -3039,15 +2269,10 @@ We were planning to submit the documentation along with the algebras -- we developed a typed representation of Spad programs (In Spad). --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 22:05:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: Parser documentation On Thu, 2 Aug 2007, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -3062,97 +2287,46 @@ ISSAC paper (Tim, I know you know it, this is just general information). Andrew -- I'll answer your request by tomorrow. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 03 Aug 2007 01:32:49 -0400 +From: Camm Maguire To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: gclcvs-2.7.0 and Axiom - <54ir7xygyo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <87zm19zoql.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <54wswd8yw9.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <87sl71zmip.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 03 Aug 2007 01:32:49 -0400 -Cc: axiom-devel Greetings! Just a note -- --enable-debug on axiom-developer.org is carrying the build past nrunfast. WIll try with gcc optimization tomorrow. -Take care, --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - \start -Subject: RE: Axiom meeting at ISSAC Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 09:48:05 +0200 -Thread-Topic: Axiom meeting at ISSAC -Thread-Index: AcfVd79jVBDMMhlJTT2S4uSjSpQTRQAKPakg - <871wen3sp7.fsf@lattice.localdomain><87wswf2drw.fsf@lattice.localdomain><87r6mn2cy9.fsf@lattice.localdomain><87lkcv2c28.fsf@lattice.localdomain><87d4y63obn.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - From: Juergen Weiss -To: Gabriel Dos Reis, - Bill Page - FILETIME=[A09ED310:01C7D5A2] -Cc: list - +To: Gabriel Dos Reis, Bill Page +Subject: RE: Axiom meeting at ISSAC > -----Original Message----- -> From: axiom-developer-bounces+weiss=3Duni-mainz.de@nongnu.org=20 -> On Behalf Of Gabriel Dos Reis -> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 4:41 AM -> To: Bill Page -> Cc: list -> Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC -> =20 -> (It would be interesting to know why the new compiler was=20 + +> (It would be interesting to know why the new compiler was > disconnected when > Axiom was made open source). -As far as I know, the ``new compiler'' has been abandoned=20 +As far as I know, the ``new compiler'' has been abandoned around 1990. I think, sources from 1991 did not contain that compiler. It has never been used in ``production'' even with Scratchpad II. As a replacement (for the old compiler and the never used new -one) A# was developed (later known as Aldor) -- around 1991 and 1992.=20 +one) A# was developed (later known as Aldor) -- around 1991 and 1992. So this was before Axiom became a commercial product by NAG and long before Axiom became open souce. -Regards - -Juergen Weiss - -Juergen Weiss | Universitaet Mainz, Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung, -Juergen Weiss| 55099 Mainz, Tel: +49(6131)39-26361, FAX: -+49(6131)39-26407 - - - \start Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 06:58:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Juergen Weiss Subject: RE: Axiom meeting at ISSAC - <871wen3sp7.fsf@lattice.localdomain><87wswf2drw.fsf@lattice.localdomain><87r6mn2cy9.fsf@lattice.localdomain><87lkcv2c28.fsf@lattice.localdomain><87d4y63obn.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <4A2AB4CC01998D46807D8032B06CDBDA02F9151F@EXCHANGE01.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> -Cc: list On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Weiss, Juergen wrote: | | > -----Original Message----- -| > From: axiom-developer-bounces+weiss=uni-mainz.de@nongnu.org -| > On Behalf Of Gabriel Dos Reis -| > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 4:41 AM -| > To: Bill Page -| > Cc: list -| > Subject: Re: Axiom meeting at ISSAC | > | > (It would be interesting to know why the new compiler was | > disconnected when @@ -3168,21 +2342,11 @@ On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Weiss, Juergen wrote: Many thanks! --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 03 Aug 2007 12:40:03 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: gclcvs-2.7.0 and Axiom - <54ir7xygyo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <87zm19zoql.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <54wswd8yw9.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <87sl71zmip.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <54odhp6v3y.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 03 Aug 2007 12:40:03 -0400 -Cc: axiom-devel , gcl-devel@gnu.org Hi Camm, @@ -3254,21 +2418,12 @@ TTL:; =------------------------ - - -Take care, -Steve - - - - \start -To: axiom-devel -From: Stephen Wilson Date: 03 Aug 2007 15:03:49 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson +To: axiom-devel Subject: i-output and decimal width - *, There was some discussion a while ago about the rounding behaviours of @@ -3297,17 +2452,11 @@ Could I suggest the following to replace these two cases: (+ 1 |negative| (round (log n 10))) - - - - \start +Date: 03 Aug 2007 15:11:32 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: i-output and decimal width -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 03 Aug 2007 15:11:32 -0400 -Cc: axiom-devel - Sorry all, @@ -3327,18 +2476,10 @@ is not enough account for the width in the negative case. However, these messages are now adrift a bit premature, so perhaps someone may know of a better solution? - -Take care, -Steve - - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 15:09:53 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Stephen Wilson -Cc: list Subject: i-output and decimal width Stephen, @@ -3361,15 +2502,10 @@ rather than compute the log? The change seems quite benign so I don't see any problem. -Tim - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Stephen Wilson Date: 03 Aug 2007 16:39:00 -0400 -Cc: list +From: Stephen Wilson +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: i-output and decimal width Tim Daly writes: @@ -3434,59 +2570,31 @@ exact results (which we need in this situation to guide the output routines). If this sounds reasonable I could get a patch together tonight. - -Take care, -Steve - - - - - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 15:54:55 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Stephen Wilson -Cc: list Subject: i-output and decimal width -Stephen, - A patch seems fine. -Tim - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 22:17:14 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Camm Maguire -Cc: list Subject: gmp functions -Camm, - Can we reach the gmp functions explicitly in gcl? That is, can I do something like: (mpz_mod n d) ==> result=n mod d -Tim - - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 18:45:16 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Alasdair McAndrew -Cc: list Subject: Axiom command in LaTeX documents -Alasdair, - I wrote two commands \spadcommand \returntype @@ -3495,33 +2603,21 @@ the axiom.sty style file. You can ask Axiom to show output as latex )set output tex and then just cut-and-paste the result. -Tim - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 19:22:57 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Alasdair McAndrew -Cc: list Subject: Axiom command in LaTeX documents -Alasdair, - You're welcome to suggest extensions or alternatives. I'll see what I can do to help. -Tim - - - \start Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 00:19:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: list Subject: $SendXEventToHyperTeX - The global variable $SendXEventToHyperTeX is set twice: (1) once as a constant in sockio.lisp.pamphlet @@ -3535,16 +2631,12 @@ The global variable $SendXEventToHyperTeX is set twice: Once of them must go. I suggest to remove the definition in hypertex.boot.pamphlet. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Tim Daly Tim Daly -From: Stephen Wilson Date: 05 Aug 2007 21:09:34 -0400 -Cc: Camm Maguire, axiom-devel +From: Stephen Wilson +To: Tim Daly Subject: Axiom and streams +Cc: Camm Maguire Tim, *, @@ -3580,18 +2672,12 @@ Steve [2] http://www.franz.com/support/documentation/6.2/doc/streams.htm - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 21:13:57 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Stephen Wilson -Cc: list Subject: Axiom and streams -Steve, - You're way ahead of me on the curve on this one. I'm unable to use CLOS until Axiom lives under ANSI. @@ -3603,18 +2689,12 @@ bi-directional graphics control, etc could all benefit. I have no opinion on either path and will follow your lead on this. -Tim - - - \start Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 21:07:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp +To: Stephen Wilson, Tim Daly Subject: Re: Axiom and streams -To: Stephen Wilson, - Tim Daly Tim Daly -Cc: Camm Maguire, axiom-devel - +Cc: Camm Maguire --- Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -3652,17 +2732,6 @@ or could it rest atop ANSI CL? Cheers, and thanks for looking into this! -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search -that gives answers, not web links. -http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC - - - \start Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 14:23:17 +1000 From: Alasdair McAndrew @@ -3677,33 +2746,18 @@ Are these instructions current? I have a student who would like to use Axiom on Mac OS X, and would prefer a native version, rather than a windows or linux version running in an emulator. -Thanks, -Alasdair - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Stephen Wilson Date: 06 Aug 2007 12:36:40 -0400 -Cc: list +From: Stephen Wilson +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: i-output and decimal width ---=-=-= - -Tim, - The following patch fixes the i-output issue. I figured the best approach would be to write a utility function, digits-by-radix, which allows one to determine the width of an integer given any radix. It attempts to be reasonably efficient. I added this function to vmlisp.lisp.pamphlet. -Take care, -Steve - - - --=-=-= diff --git a/changelog b/changelog @@ -3868,15 +2922,12 @@ index 7247d7a..2478e04 100644 --=-=-=-- - - - \start +Date: 06 Aug 2007 13:10:18 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Axiom and streams -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 06 Aug 2007 13:10:18 -0400 -Cc: Camm Maguire, axiom-devel +Cc: Camm Maguire Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -3959,20 +3010,12 @@ away. We can port the interface to other Lisps if needed. I will start on getting some preliminary work done. Any more questions/thoughts would be greatly appreciated. - -Thanks, -Steve - - - - \start Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 10:29:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Axiom and streams To: Stephen Wilson -Cc: Camm Maguire, axiom-devel - +Subject: Re: Axiom and streams +Cc: Camm Maguire --- Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -3985,24 +3028,11 @@ one a special case of the other, for example? (I.e. could Simple Streams be regarded as a special case layer on top of Gray Streams, or doesn't that make sense?) -Cheers, -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Got a little couch potato? -Check out fun summer activities for kids. -http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz - - - \start Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 13:31:26 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Alasdair McAndrew Subject: Re: Axiom under Mac OS X? -Cc: list On 8/6/07, Alasdair McAndrew wrote: > There's instructions for building Axiom on Mac OS X at @@ -4023,18 +3053,11 @@ encounter. In the near future I will also be testing the build of FriCAS on Mac OS X as part of the new version of axiom4sage. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start +Date: 06 Aug 2007 13:02:50 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Axiom under Mac OS X? - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 06 Aug 2007 13:02:50 -0500 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -4052,18 +3075,12 @@ try a build as of today and send me report? I could just tell students "go to Axiom website, download, and build with configure && make && make install". -Thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 06 Aug 2007 14:48:22 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Axiom and streams -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 06 Aug 2007 14:48:22 -0400 -Cc: Camm Maguire, axiom-devel +Cc: Camm Maguire Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -4091,19 +3108,12 @@ Some interesting comments were made about the issues involved here: http://common-lisp.net/pipermail/streams-standard-discuss/2004-September.txt - -Take care, -Steve - - - - \start Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 12:13:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Axiom and streams To: Stephen Wilson -Cc: Camm Maguire, axiom-devel +Subject: Re: Axiom and streams +Cc: Camm Maguire --- Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -4140,24 +3150,11 @@ http://common-lisp.net/pipermail/streams-standard-discuss/2004-September.txt Good find - I'll take a look at that. Thanks! -Cheers, -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's -Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. -http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 - - - \start -Subject: Re: sequence -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 21:44:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: sequence > Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > @@ -4174,18 +3171,11 @@ Cc: list that "sequence" is unused, but no Lisp implementation I use obected to it (they barfed on "count") so I did not notice it. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 14:51:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: sequence -Cc: list On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Waldek Hebisch wrote: @@ -4212,18 +3202,11 @@ SBCL complained about modification to locked package COMMON-LISP when it sees sequence's definition -- the conditions I ran into that were that I was trying to get all lisp codes compiled (that is needed for ECL). -Thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start -Subject: Re: i-output and decimal width -To: Stephen Wilson Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 21:56:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: axiom-devel +To: Stephen Wilson +Subject: Re: i-output and decimal width Stephen Wilson wrote: > Stephen Wilson writes: @@ -4252,18 +3235,11 @@ version (commited to wh-sandbox). Some remarks: extra verification. - for large arguments I use over-estimate. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start -Subject: Re: $SendXEventToHyperTeX -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 22:11:51 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: $SendXEventToHyperTeX Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > @@ -4285,18 +3261,11 @@ We should remove version in hypertex.boot.pamphlet. However, AFAICS $SendXEventToHyperTeX and SendXEventToHyperTeX is unused so we could also remove both. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start -Subject: Re: LastCxArg -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 22:20:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: LastCxArg Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > @@ -4308,18 +3277,12 @@ This rotine (and several others nearby) is probably junk. It looks like debugging helper that got bitrotten and is useless now. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start +Date: 06 Aug 2007 16:37:35 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Axiom and streams -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 06 Aug 2007 16:37:35 -0400 -Cc: Camm Maguire, axiom-devel +Cc: Camm Maguire Cliff Yapp writes: > Are they mutually exclusive? @@ -4351,21 +3314,11 @@ are running I can look at how they can be embedded in GCL so as to take advantage of implementation specifics. Hopefully a lot of the details, pros/cons, etc, will become clear by taking that approach. - -Take care, -Steve - - - - \start Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 17:17:55 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Axiom under Mac OS X? - - <87myx4sfqt.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -Cc: list On 06 Aug 2007 13:02:50 -0500, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Bill Page writes: @@ -4390,16 +3343,10 @@ Sage project has offered to given me remote access to a Mac sometime in the next few days to test the new axiom4sage package. I will let you know as soon as I have done this. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Camm Maguire Date: 06 Aug 2007 17:33:10 -0400 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: gmp functions Greetings! Not yet, but I have been meaning to do this for some time, @@ -4425,29 +3372,12 @@ Tim Daly writes: > That is, can I do something like: > > (mpz_mod n d) ==> result=n mod d -> -> Tim -> -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 07:48:15 +1000 From: Alasdair McAndrew To: Bill Page, list Subject: Re: Axiom under Mac OS X? - - <87myx4sfqt.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - -Cc: I have asked my student to try installing wh-sandbox, and to keep a record of how he does it. If he's successful, I'll let you know. If @@ -4479,22 +3409,13 @@ On 8/7/07, Bill Page wrote: > Sage project has offered to given me remote access to a Mac sometime > in the next few days to test the new axiom4sage package. I will let > you know as soon as I have done this. -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Camm Maguire Date: 06 Aug 2007 18:13:38 -0400 -Cc: list +From: Camm Maguire +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: gmp functions -Greetings! - Just checking -- all that is of interest are the mpz functions, right? (please see gmp docs if this does not make sense.) @@ -4508,27 +3429,12 @@ Tim Daly writes: > That is, can I do something like: > > (mpz_mod n d) ==> result=n mod d -> -> Tim -> -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start +Date: 06 Aug 2007 18:17:21 -0400 +From: Camm Maguire To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: Axiom and streams - <87odhkwga8.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 06 Aug 2007 18:17:21 -0400 -Cc: axiom-devel Greetings! This stuff sounds great, and likely can be included in the gcl distribution proper even though it is an ansi extension. I think @@ -4569,27 +3475,12 @@ Stephen Wilson writes: > take advantage of implementation specifics. Hopefully a lot of the > details, pros/cons, etc, will become clear by taking that approach. > -> -> Take care, -> Steve -> -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start +Date: 06 Aug 2007 18:25:55 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: i-output and decimal width -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 06 Aug 2007 18:25:55 -0400 -Cc: axiom-devel Hi Waldek, @@ -4640,21 +3531,11 @@ more than 100000 decimal digits -- this is a fairly practical range for the pretty printing of expressions, so there is not urgent need to optimize IMHO. - -Take care, -Steve - - - - \start +Date: 06 Aug 2007 19:07:44 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: Axiom and streams - <87odhkwga8.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <54643sl34e.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 06 Aug 2007 19:07:44 -0400 -Cc: axiom-devel Camm Maguire writes: @@ -4719,34 +3600,12 @@ Steve > > are running I can look at how they can be embedded in GCL so as to > > take advantage of implementation specifics. Hopefully a lot of the > > details, pros/cons, etc, will become clear by taking that approach. -> > -> > -> > Take care, -> > Steve -> > -> > -> > -> > -> -> -- -> Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -> ========================================================================== -> "The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - \start +Date: 06 Aug 2007 22:40:18 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: gclcvs-2.7.0 and Axiom - <54ir7xygyo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <87zm19zoql.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <54wswd8yw9.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <87sl71zmip.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <54odhp6v3y.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 06 Aug 2007 22:40:18 -0400 -Cc: axiom-devel Camm, @@ -4775,22 +3634,11 @@ Camm Maguire writes: > Greetings! Just a note -- --enable-debug on axiom-developer.org is > carrying the build past nrunfast. WIll try with gcc optimization > tomorrow. -> -> Take care, -> -- -> Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -> ========================================================================== -> "The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - \start Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:12:49 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis - <87myx4sfqt.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -Cc: list Subject: Unsuccessful build-improvements Hi Gaby, @@ -4912,20 +3760,11 @@ make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/hemmecke/OTHER/Axiom/out-of-source-build-improvements/gcl' make: *** [build/i686-pc-linux/bin/gcl] Error 2 - - \start +Date: 07 Aug 2007 09:31:47 -0400 +From: Camm Maguire To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: gclcvs-2.7.0 and Axiom - <54ir7xygyo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <87zm19zoql.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <54wswd8yw9.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <87sl71zmip.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <54odhp6v3y.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <87tzrcukx9.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 07 Aug 2007 09:31:47 -0400 -Cc: axiom-devel Greetings, and thanks! @@ -4969,38 +3808,12 @@ Stephen Wilson writes: > > Greetings! Just a note -- --enable-debug on axiom-developer.org is > > carrying the build past nrunfast. WIll try with gcc optimization > > tomorrow. -> > -> > Take care, -> > -- -> > Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -> > ========================================================================== -> > "The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah -> -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start +Date: 07 Aug 2007 09:52:22 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Unsuccessful build-improvements - - <87myx4sfqt.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46B86FD1.303@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 07 Aug 2007 09:52:22 -0500 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -5047,30 +3860,20 @@ I believe that is the GCL configuration at work -- I have no control on it. Maybe the gcl/config.log will tell us more about what is going on. --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 10:45:09 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list Subject: ssh problem Ralf, It appears that sshd is not running on parrot.risc.uni-linz.ac.at -Tim - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 11:19:24 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Stephen Wilson -Cc: list Subject: i-output and decimal width Stephen, @@ -5079,19 +3882,11 @@ Patch accepted and applied. I've put it in the queue for a test cycle. If it passes the tests I'll promote it. -Tim - - - \start Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 11:38:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Unsuccessful build-improvements - - <87myx4sfqt.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46B86FD1.303@hemmecke.de> - <87vebrpfbt.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46B8894C.8000508@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -5106,17 +3901,11 @@ Emacs .el files. The test did not succeed, but for some reasons the variable EMACS_DEFAULT_EL was not properly cleared. Hence the error later. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Martin Rubey Date: 08 Aug 2007 00:08:34 +0200 -Cc: list -Subject: typo in the guessing package pamphlet, - was: Re: Algebra and literate documentation +From: Martin Rubey +To: Tim Daly +Subject: typo in the guessing package pamphlet, was: Re: Algebra and literate documentation Tim Daly writes: @@ -5168,17 +3957,11 @@ PS: I have to prepare a one semester course within the next 10 days (and I am starting only tomorrow), so I'll answer mail very selectively. I.e.,, I'll mainly answer things I can answer without much thinking. - - - \start -To: Martin Rubey -Subject: Re: typo in the guessing package pamphlet, - was: Re: Algebra and literate documentation - <9qbqdjyp3x.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 07 Aug 2007 17:34:36 -0500 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: Re: typo in the guessing package pamphlet, was: Re: Algebra and literate documentation Martin Rubey writes: @@ -5197,19 +3980,11 @@ not fully confident about the changes we made because I could not read/understand what the code is supposed to compute and *why* it is doing what it is doing. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 07 Aug 2007 17:35:24 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Unsuccessful build-improvements - - <87myx4sfqt.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46B86FD1.303@hemmecke.de> - <87vebrpfbt.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 07 Aug 2007 17:35:24 -0500 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -5228,19 +4003,11 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: I installed Camm's suggestion at revision 699. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 18:49:21 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: typo in the guessing package pamphlet, - was: Re: Algebra and literate documentation - <9qbqdjyp3x.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - <87k5s7nfcz.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -Cc: list On 07 Aug 2007 17:34:36 -0500, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Martin Rubey writes: @@ -5268,20 +4035,11 @@ The Martin's algebra code is known to compile under wh-sandbox and FriCAS. Very likely (I haven't tried) it can also be made to compile under build-improvements. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: Re: typo in the guessing package pamphlet, - was: Re: Algebra and literate documentation - <9qbqdjyp3x.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - <87k5s7nfcz.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -From: Martin Rubey Date: 08 Aug 2007 01:09:38 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: typo in the guessing package pamphlet, was: Re: Algebra and literat Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -5332,19 +4090,11 @@ compilation itself. Do you recall what went wrong at ISSAC? -Martin - - - - \start +Date: 08 Aug 2007 01:22:55 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Andrey G. Grozin Subject: re: Pamphlet format discussion - <878x9aflk4.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 08 Aug 2007 01:22:55 +0200 -Cc: list Andrey G. Grozin writes: @@ -5377,19 +4127,11 @@ way. Doesn't mmm-mode allow this? -Martin - - - - - - \start +Date: 08 Aug 2007 01:28:23 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Democracy! -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 08 Aug 2007 01:28:23 +0200 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -5405,21 +4147,12 @@ it immediately clear that I do not suggest to wait for a simple majority but only wait for a limited number of days. I'll copy my voting scheme proposal to MathAction. -Martin - - - - \start Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 19:42:37 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey -Subject: Re: typo in the guessing package pamphlet, - was: Re: Algebra and literate documentation - <9qbqdjyp3x.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - <87k5s7nfcz.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qfy2veybx.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: typo in the guessing package pamphlet, was: Re: Algebra and literate documentation +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On 08 Aug 2007 01:09:38 +0200, Martin Rubey wrote: > Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -5465,23 +4198,11 @@ that during the build the wrong database files must accessed since that is the only thing that I can think of that might be different between the build environment and running Axiom from the command line. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start +Date: 08 Aug 2007 01:50:45 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Bill Page Subject: adding new algebra, - was: Re: typo in the guessing package pamphlet, - was: Re: Algebra and literate documentation - <9qbqdjyp3x.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - <87k5s7nfcz.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qfy2veybx.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 08 Aug 2007 01:50:45 +0200 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -5508,24 +4229,11 @@ In any case, this semi-automatic build is stupid and can be avoided by using an appropriate build scheme. I guess, Tim is working on that. Really, the problem is the same as Franz Lehner's, I guess. -Martin - - - - \start Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 20:03:05 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: adding new algebra, - was: Re: typo in the guessing package pamphlet, - was: Re: Algebra and literate documentation - <9qbqdjyp3x.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - <87k5s7nfcz.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qfy2veybx.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9q3ayu7vl6.fsf_-_@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list On 08 Aug 2007 01:50:45 +0200, Martin Rubey wrote: > Bill Page writes: @@ -5557,25 +4265,11 @@ bootstrap started. The only version of Axiom that can currently compile it is FriCAS since it has a more elaborate bootstrap system that starts with empy databases. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start +Date: 08 Aug 2007 02:05:26 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Bill Page Subject: Re: adding new algebra, - was: Re: typo in the guessing package pamphlet, - was: Re: Algebra and literate documentation - <9qbqdjyp3x.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - <87k5s7nfcz.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qfy2veybx.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9q3ayu7vl6.fsf_-_@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 08 Aug 2007 02:05:26 +0200 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -5591,21 +4285,11 @@ Bill Page writes: Oh yes, quite right. Well, that's the way to do it in any case. I hope for many many many changes deep down the algebra... -Martin - - - - \start Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 20:09:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: typo in the guessing package pamphlet, was: - Re: Algebra and literate documentation - <9qbqdjyp3x.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - <87k5s7nfcz.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qfy2veybx.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list On Tue, 8 Aug 2007, Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -5625,21 +4309,11 @@ If you would like me to get your package bundled with build-improvements, I'm afraid you would have to help me more than just instructing me to gather information from several places... --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 20:13:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: typo in the guessing package pamphlet, was: - Re: Algebra and literate documentation - <9qbqdjyp3x.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - <87k5s7nfcz.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qfy2veybx.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - -Cc: list On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -5663,23 +4337,12 @@ parameters -- at least, that is what the compiler was reporting (I know, it is a bug, but I would love to understand what your code is doing and why the compiler is failing). --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 21:49:41 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: adding new algebra, - was: Re: typo in the guessing package pamphlet, - was: Re: Algebra and literate documentation - <9qbqdjyp3x.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - <87k5s7nfcz.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qfy2veybx.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9q3ayu7vl6.fsf_-_@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On 08 Aug 2007 01:50:45 +0200, Martin Rubey wrote: > ... @@ -5714,22 +4377,11 @@ http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-09/msg00491.html are right on. -Regards, -bill Page. - - - \start +Date: 08 Aug 2007 06:56:46 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: typo in the guessing package pamphlet, - was: Re: Algebra and literate documentation - <9qbqdjyp3x.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - <87k5s7nfcz.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qfy2veybx.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 08 Aug 2007 06:56:46 +0200 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -5809,23 +4461,11 @@ like to be able to reproduce the problems you experienced. (I definitively want to have it in build-improvements! In fact, I want to have it in Gold, too.) -Martin - - - - \start Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 01:47:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: typo in the guessing package pamphlet, was: - Re: Algebra and literate documentation - <9qbqdjyp3x.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - <87k5s7nfcz.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qfy2veybx.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9qk5s662up.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list On Tue, 8 Aug 2007, Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -5874,23 +4514,11 @@ integrating your package into Silver. Tim, do you still have the logs? Thanks for your answers! I'll return back to you. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 01:49:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: adding new algebra, was: Re: typo in the - guessing package pamphlet, was: Re: Algebra and literate documentation - <9qbqdjyp3x.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - <87k5s7nfcz.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qfy2veybx.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9q3ayu7vl6.fsf_-_@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - -Cc: list On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -5929,22 +4557,12 @@ On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: Bill -- thanks for the detective work! --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 03:19:43 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: typo in the guessing package pamphlet, - was: Re: Algebra and literate documentation - <9qbqdjyp3x.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - <87k5s7nfcz.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qfy2veybx.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9qk5s662up.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On 08 Aug 2007 06:56:46 +0200, Martin Rubey wrote: > Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -6040,24 +4658,11 @@ Could you give an alternate explanation that makes better sense? > ... -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 03:18:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: typo in the guessing package pamphlet, was: - Re: Algebra and literate documentation - <9qbqdjyp3x.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - <87k5s7nfcz.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qfy2veybx.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9qk5s662up.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - -Cc: list On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -6143,23 +4748,11 @@ would be equivalent to However, I can't find a documentation for that. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 08 Aug 2007 10:37:45 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: typo in the guessing package pamphlet - <9qbqdjyp3x.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - <87k5s7nfcz.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qfy2veybx.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9qk5s662up.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - - -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 08 Aug 2007 10:37:45 +0200 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -6243,28 +4836,11 @@ Please send them to me directly or via axiom-developer, not to MathAction, because I update MathAction from time to time, and then these patches might be lost. - -Many thanks, - -Martin - - - - \start Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 03:46:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: typo in the guessing package pamphlet - <9qbqdjyp3x.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - <87k5s7nfcz.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qfy2veybx.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9qk5s662up.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - - - <9qy7gmifqe.fsf_-_@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -6284,18 +4860,12 @@ those changes and resubmit your package so that we can all get it in main Axiom distribution -- so that so some of us can focuse on the database issue (e.g. compiler bugs). --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:47:36 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Unsuccessful build-improvements - <46B86FD1.303@hemmecke.de> <87vebrpfbt.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87ejifnfbn.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire > I installed Camm's suggestion at revision 699. @@ -6451,18 +5021,12 @@ make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/hemmecke/OTHER/Axiom/out-of-source-build-improvements/gcl' make: *** [build/i686-pc-linux/bin/gcl] Error 2 - - \start Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 05:02:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Unsuccessful build-improvements - - <87myx4sfqt.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46B86FD1.303@hemmecke.de> - <87vebrpfbt.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87ejifnfbn.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46B99138.8070401@hemmecke.de> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -6476,17 +5040,11 @@ Camm -- We don't use GCL's Emacs .el at all when we build GCL; is there a way to ask GCL's configure not to attempt anything with Emacs' file? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 13:06:03 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: Bill Wood -Cc: axiom-dev , axiom-mail@nongnu.org -Subject: Re: [Axiom-mail] Assigning to Element of Array of - Records Doesn't Seem to Work +To: Bill Wood +Subject: Re: [Axiom-mail] Assigning to Element of Array of Records Doesn't Seem to Work I think you have just found a bug in the Axiom interpreter/compiler. @@ -6605,19 +5163,13 @@ On 08/08/2007 11:41 AM, Bill Wood wrote: > ======================================================================= > What do I have to do to set the fields of the records to desired > values??? -> -> -- Bill Wood - - \start -To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Assigning to Element of Array - of Records Doesn't Seem to Work -From: Martin Rubey Date: 08 Aug 2007 13:36:52 +0200 -Cc: axiom-dev , axiom-mail@nongnu.org, - Bill Wood +From: Martin Rubey +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Assigning to Element of Array of Records Doesn't Seem to Work +Cc: Bill Wood Maybe you could try to compile the same thing with libaxiom? @@ -6738,31 +5290,12 @@ Ralf Hemmecke writes: > > ======================================================================= > > What do I have to do to set the fields of the records to desired > > values??? -> > -- Bill Wood -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - - \start Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 07:57:00 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: typo in the guessing package pamphlet, - was: Re: Algebra and literate documentation - <9qbqdjyp3x.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - <87k5s7nfcz.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qfy2veybx.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9qk5s662up.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> - - -Cc: list On 8/8/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -6797,20 +5330,12 @@ Ahhh, I see! Excellent. Now there is documentation. :-) Thank you. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 14:17:47 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey -Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Assigning to Element of Array - of Records Doesn't Seem to Work - <9qlkcmxnor.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: axiom-dev , axiom-mail@nongnu.org, - Bill Wood +Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Assigning to Element of Array of Records Doesn't Seem to Work +Cc: Bill Wood I guess, that should be moved to issue tracker, but I haven't yet used it, so please excuse that this is just a sandbox. @@ -6824,19 +5349,13 @@ Ralf On 08/08/2007 01:36 PM, Martin Rubey wrote: > Maybe you could try to compile the same thing with libaxiom? - > - > Martin - - \start -To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Assigning to Element of Array - of Records Doesn't Seem to Work -From: Martin Rubey Date: 08 Aug 2007 14:51:48 +0200 -Cc: axiom-dev , axiom-mail@nongnu.org, - Bill Wood +From: Martin Rubey +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Assigning to Element of Array of Records Doesn't Seem to Work +Cc: Bill Wood Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -6880,15 +5399,10 @@ main(): PrimitiveArray R == { So it really really really should go away. -Martin - - - - \start Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 15:06:59 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: axiom-dev +To: list Subject: Successful build-improvements compilation Dear Gaby, @@ -6945,15 +5459,11 @@ Temporary directory for compiler files set to /tmp/hemmecke/ Issue )quit to leave AXIOM and return to shell. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - - \start +Date: 08 Aug 2007 08:54:35 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Successful build-improvements compilation -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Aug 2007 08:54:35 -0500 -Cc: axiom-dev Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -6998,16 +5508,11 @@ bug. Many thanks for the report. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:37:52 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Successful build-improvements compilation -Cc: axiom-dev Hi Gaby, @@ -7023,21 +5528,11 @@ Tell me whatever you need. I can zip my build directory if you think that is helpful (about 118784487 bytes). Otherwise just tell me what you need. -Ralf - - - - - - - \start +Date: 08 Aug 2007 09:57:02 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Successful build-improvements compilation - <878x8mjfms.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46B9D540.1000500@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Aug 2007 09:57:02 -0500 -Cc: axiom-dev Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -7053,19 +5548,12 @@ Ralf Hemmecke writes: I believe the second bug is a consequence of the first bug. I should be able to fix the first bug shortly. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:02:24 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey -Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Assigning to Element of Array - of Records Doesn't Seem to Work - <9qlkcmxnor.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: axiom-dev , axiom-mail@nongnu.org, - Bill Wood +Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Assigning to Element of Array of Records Doesn't Seem to Work +Cc: Bill Wood Unfortunately, I don't know how to compile SPAD code inside MathAction. @@ -7100,17 +5588,11 @@ MyPkg(): with ys ---END bbb.spad - - \start Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 11:24:51 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Assigning to Element of Array - of Records Doesn't Seem to Work - <9qlkcmxnor.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <46B9DB00.10008@hemmecke.de> -Cc: axiom-dev , axiom-mail@nongnu.org +Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Assigning to Element of Array of Records Doesn't Seem to Work On 8/8/07, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > Unfortunately, I don't know how to compile SPAD code inside MathAction. @@ -7128,23 +5610,11 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomProgramming just for you. :-) -> ... - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:46:01 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Assigning to Element of Array - of Records Doesn't Seem to Work - <9qlkcmxnor.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <46B9DB00.10008@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: axiom-dev +Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Assigning to Element of Array of Records Doesn't Seem to Work On 08/08/2007 05:24 PM, Bill Page wrote: > On 8/8/07, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -7175,21 +5645,11 @@ instead of AxiomTutorial? Can I claim that this could count as a bug? -Ralf - - - \start Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 12:36:07 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Assigning to Element of Array - of Records Doesn't Seem to Work - <9qlkcmxnor.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <46B9DB00.10008@hemmecke.de> - - <46B9E539.8020601@hemmecke.de> -Cc: axiom-dev +Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Assigning to Element of Array of Records Doesn't Seem to Work On 8/8/07, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > On 08/08/2007 05:24 PM, Bill Page wrote: @@ -7215,23 +5675,11 @@ using the Axiom wiki this way. Maybe this will help. Let me know if you find anything else missing or unclear. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -To: Bill Page -Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Assigning to Element of Array - of Records Doesn't Seem to Work - <9qlkcmxnor.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <46B9DB00.10008@hemmecke.de> - - <46B9E539.8020601@hemmecke.de> - -From: Martin Rubey Date: 08 Aug 2007 19:44:01 +0200 -Cc: axiom-dev +From: Martin Rubey +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Assigning to Element of Array of Records Doesn't Seem to Work Bill Page writes: @@ -7253,24 +5701,11 @@ I moved the material from SandBoxSetEltProblem into IssueTracker. Ralf: to add a new issue, just click on bug report, fill out the comment box, click add issue. After that you can edit the Issue just as any other page. -Martin - - - - \start Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 14:28:39 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey -Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Assigning to Element of Array - of Records Doesn't Seem to Work - <9qlkcmxnor.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <46B9DB00.10008@hemmecke.de> - - <46B9E539.8020601@hemmecke.de> - - <9q1wedexb2.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: axiom-dev +Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Assigning to Element of Array of Records Doesn't Seem to Work On 08 Aug 2007 19:44:01 +0200, Martin Rubey wrote: > ... @@ -7288,16 +5723,10 @@ AxiomTutorial is the page that is accessed in one click from the "Axiom" help link in the editing assistant panel at the bottom of the page. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 00:08:47 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: Jenks notes Plowing thru my local library I came across this note from Dick Jenks. @@ -7415,16 +5844,10 @@ ShallowlyMutable is an attribute meaning that the elements of the aggregate can be change "in place". Examples of data structures are lists, strings, vectors, and so on. - - - - \start Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:06:32 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey - <9q4pj99j92.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: axiom-dev , axiom-mail Subject: Re: [JenksNotes] (new) Notes of Dick Jenks Why did you write to axiom-mail? @@ -7447,18 +5870,12 @@ On 08/09/2007 10:58 AM, Martin Rubey wrote: Oh, I did not know that. Sorry. I've changed it and it seems to look readable, as well. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 16:07:02 +0200 (CEST) From: Franz Lehner To: list Subject: aldor stream oddities -Hello, - is there a way to get hold of generate$Stream using the aldor compiler? I spent quite some time until figuring out that generate is probably a keyword in aldor (I could not check as the aldor site seems to be down) @@ -7515,17 +5932,11 @@ Program fault (segmentation violation).#3 (Error) Program fault make: *** [test.ao] Fehler 1 -regards, -Franz - - - \start +Date: 09 Aug 2007 17:34:34 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Franz Lehner Subject: Re: aldor stream oddities -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 09 Aug 2007 17:34:34 +0200 -Cc: list Franz Lehner writes: @@ -7593,15 +6004,11 @@ precisely, its first element is non-lazy, but the second is. NonNullStream: S := ((rst integers 0) pretend REC).firstElt; @ - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 11:55:37 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Franz Lehner Subject: Re: aldor stream oddities -Cc: list On 8/9/07, Franz Lehner wrote: > Hello, @@ -7618,18 +6025,12 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxAldorGenerator#msg20070809105309-0500@wik "The important thing is to escape the keyword generator by prefix with _." -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:08:22 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: aldor stream oddities - -Cc: list, Franz Lehner +Cc: Franz Lehner Hello, @@ -7753,31 +6154,21 @@ TestStream: with { } ---END aaa.as - - - \start -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 09 Aug 2007 11:54:00 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: InteractiveMode - The variable InteractiveMode used in function postError (postpar.boot) is a typo for $InteractiveMode. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 09 Aug 2007 12:23:00 -0500 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: newrule from metalex.lisp - The routine NEWRULE from metalex.lisp contains the following: (test Rule1) @@ -7786,19 +6177,12 @@ That line should read (test "RULE1") --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 13:04:06 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list Subject: newrule from metalex.lisp -Gaby, - > The routine NEWRULE from metalex.lisp contains the following: > > (test Rule1) @@ -7833,18 +6217,10 @@ So, I'll ask the same question I asked Steve with his i-output fix... Can you show an example where it breaks before the change and is fixed after the change? -Tim - - - - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 13:34:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: newrule from metalex.lisp On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -7942,15 +6318,10 @@ fixed. Can you explain why the existing code is correct as written? --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 13:46:21 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list Subject: newrule from metalex.lisp Gaby, @@ -7965,20 +6336,11 @@ Gaby wrote: Why? -Tim - - - - - - \start +Date: 09 Aug 2007 14:47:46 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: newrule from metalex.lisp - -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 09 Aug 2007 14:47:46 -0400 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -8005,37 +6367,22 @@ to others -- was planning to raise the issue eventually. Is metameta.lisp of iterest? If not, I can post a patch within a day or two removing both. -Take care, -Steve - - - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 13:55:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: macro STEP - Tim -- I believe Spad defines the macro STEP (for iteration purposes, like COLLECT). I'm unable to locate it right now. Do you happen to know where it is defined? - --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 09 Aug 2007 15:05:38 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: macro STEP -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 09 Aug 2007 15:05:38 -0400 -Cc: list Hi Gaby, @@ -8050,20 +6397,11 @@ It has been a while since I looked at this, but I have a vivid recollection that STEP is effectively an IR meta-op, never emitted into actual code -- thus not defined as a macro or similar. -Take care, -Steve - - - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 14:11:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: macro STEP - <87d4xwttod.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -8087,27 +6425,17 @@ instructing to disregard my query. Sorry for the noise. --- Gaby - - - \start -Subject: re: newrule from metalex.lisp Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 21:33:22 +0200 -Thread-Topic: Re: newrule from metalex.lisp -Thread-Index: AcfatdmBp/NBXPsrTFqV3H/9yVRhkgABLXYg - <87hcn8tui5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> From: Juergen Weiss -To: Stephen Wilson, - Gabriel Dos Reis - FILETIME=[26761C50:01C7DABC] -Cc: list +To: Stephen Wilson, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: newrule from metalex.lisp In principle metalex.lisp is used to generate fnewmeta.lisp -from fnewmeta.meta (and metameta.lisp from metameta.meta).=20 +from fnewmeta.meta (and metameta.lisp from metameta.meta). metameta.meta is a parser generator written in itself. The grammar of the old parser (for the SPAD compiler) is -defined in the file fnewmeta.meta.=20 +defined in the file fnewmeta.meta. Seems that someone did not like this setup and removed some files. The remaining parts do not make much sense @@ -8115,29 +6443,20 @@ anymore. So one solution is to eliminate the remnants, the other to get the files from the archives (tar file) and add some rules in the Makefiles. -Regards - -Juergen Weiss - -Juergen Weiss | Universitaet Mainz, Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung, -Juergen Weiss| 55099 Mainz, Tel: +49(6131)39-26361, FAX: -+49(6131)39-26407 -=20 - > -----Original Message----- -> From: axiom-developer-bounces+weiss=3Duni-mainz.de@nongnu.org=20 +> From: axiom-developer-bounces+weiss=uni-mainz.de@nongnu.org > On Behalf Of Stephen Wilson > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 8:48 PM > To: Gabriel Dos Reis > Cc: list > Subject: re: newrule from metalex.lisp ->=20 +> > Gabriel Dos Reis writes: ->=20 +> > > On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Tim Daly wrote: -> >=20 +> > > > | Gaby, -> > |=20 +> > | > > | > The routine NEWRULE from metalex.lisp contains the following: > > | > > > | > (test Rule1) @@ -8145,37 +6464,22 @@ Juergen Weiss| 55099 Mainz, Tel: +49(6131)39-26361, FAX: > > | > That line should read > > | > > > | > (test "RULE1") -> > |=20 -> > | I don't know where metalex is used anymore.=20 -> >=20 +> > | +> > | I don't know where metalex is used anymore. +> > > > If metalex is no longer used, then we should just remove it :-) > > I'm all for unused Lisp codes that go away. ->=20 +> > I removed this code (and metameta.lisp) a while ago from the axisp > branch. Never posted a patch since I was unsure if it was of interest > to others -- was planning to raise the issue eventually. Is > metameta.lisp of iterest? If not, I can post a patch within a day or > two removing both. ->=20 -> Take care, -> Steve ->=20 ->=20 ->=20 ->=20 -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer ->=20 - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 14:33:31 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list Subject: metalex change Gaby, @@ -8201,32 +6505,18 @@ you get so the original code is correct as written. -Tim - - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 14:37:33 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list Subject: metalex change -Gaby, - Actually, we're both incorrect. The argument is missing a quote. -Tim - - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 14:52:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: metalex change On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -8262,15 +6552,10 @@ Why is it a quote when strconc is defined as synonymous to concat (I'm using SBCL to type check the codes, but I don't think it matters much. Furthermore, I think we should just have one definition). --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 14:54:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: metalex change On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -8303,18 +6588,11 @@ discover the bugs. It was plain Rule1 without quote. Also, if the function expects strings, we should give it a string. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 14:59:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Juergen Weiss Subject: re: newrule from metalex.lisp - <87hcn8tui5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4A2AB4CC01998D46807D8032B06CDBDA02F9152C@EXCHANGE01.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> -Cc: list On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Weiss, Juergen wrote: @@ -8344,19 +6622,12 @@ term would be to remove the remanants. Would you object to moving to the new parser (cparse.boot)? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 16:07:26 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Juergen Weiss Subject: re: newrule from metalex.lisp - - <87hcn8tui5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4A2AB4CC01998D46807D8032B06CDBDA02F9152C@EXCHANGE01.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On 8/9/07, Weiss, Juergen wrote: > In principle metalex.lisp is used to generate fnewmeta.lisp @@ -8417,18 +6688,11 @@ also in Jenks, R.D.: META/PLUS: The Syntax Extension Facility for SCRATCHPAD, IBM T.J. Watson Research Center, RC 3259, New York, Feb. 23, 1971 -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start +Date: 09 Aug 2007 16:14:44 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: metalex change - -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 09 Aug 2007 16:14:44 -0400 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > Also, if the function expects strings, we should give it a string. @@ -8440,21 +6704,12 @@ idiom, so I do not see a problem. Perhaps a close look at the gcl code and a patch against the documentation in si-defs.texi is in order. -Take care, -Steve - - - - - \start +Date: 09 Aug 2007 16:19:41 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Stephen Wilson Subject: re: metalex change - - <878x8ktqh7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 09 Aug 2007 16:19:41 -0400 -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Stephen Wilson writes: @@ -8472,22 +6727,12 @@ Of course, that being said, it is a stylistic choice as to what designator one uses. In this case I would probably use a string myself as opposed to a symbol. -Steve - - - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 09 Aug 2007 15:20:26 -0500 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: SPECIALCASESYNTAX - -Tim -- - Speaking of meta meta and friends, the SBCL compiler chokes on the following from newaux.lips @@ -8503,18 +6748,11 @@ undefined variables, namely TOK and CHR. I don't know how that function can possibly work. In fact, that routine does not appear to be called anywhere... --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 15:22:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: re: metalex change - - <878x8ktqh7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -8534,19 +6772,11 @@ We have two versions, one that uses GCL's stuff, and one that uses the standard concatenate with type 'string. We should write codes that compile with either version. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 09 Aug 2007 15:46:56 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: re: metalex change - - <878x8ktqh7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <874pj8tq8y.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Aug 2007 15:46:56 -0500 -Cc: list Stephen Wilson writes: @@ -8572,23 +6802,11 @@ Try this with SBCL: (concatenate 'string "foo 'bar) - --- Gaby - - - \start -Subject: re: newrule from metalex.lisp Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 22:48:29 +0200 -Thread-Topic: Re: newrule from metalex.lisp -Thread-Index: Acfav8ncJBEUeSmDRMGm5RzK4db0pAABFl4g - <87hcn8tui5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4A2AB4CC01998D46807D8032B06CDBDA02F9152C@EXCHANGE01.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> - From: Juergen Weiss To: Gabriel Dos Reis - FILETIME=[A4AA9150:01C7DAC6] -Cc: list +Subject: re: newrule from metalex.lisp Hi, @@ -8606,52 +6824,33 @@ parsing for the SPAD compiler. But the code seems to be quite fragile. In the mean time I think the new parse could be the better solution. -Regards - -Juergen Weiss - -Juergen Weiss | Universitaet Mainz, Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung, -Juergen Weiss| 55099 Mainz, Tel: +49(6131)39-26361, FAX: -+49(6131)39-26407 -=20 - > -----Original Message----- -> From: Gabriel Dos Reis [mailto:Gabriel Dos Reis]=20 +> From: Gabriel Dos Reis [mailto:Gabriel Dos Reis] > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:59 PM > To: Weiss, Juergen > Cc: Stephen Wilson; list > Subject: re: newrule from metalex.lisp ->=20 +> > Hi Juergen, thanks for the background. ->=20 +> > You're quite right the current situation is confusing. The current > interpreter uses the new parser (cparse.boot), while the compiler > uses the old parser whose grammar is generated as you describe above. -> Except that the grammar is not actually generated anymore:=20 -> instead the=20 +> Except that the grammar is not actually generated anymore: +> instead the > corresponding Lisp is cached. I believe it would make sense that > both the interpreter and the compiler uses the same parser, to reduce -> confusion in syntax, etc. From that perspective, I would=20 +> confusion in syntax, etc. From that perspective, I would > think that the long > term would be to remove the remanants. ->=20 +> > Would you object to moving to the new parser (cparse.boot)? ->=20 -> -- Gaby ->=20 - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 15:52:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Juergen Weiss Subject: re: newrule from metalex.lisp - <87hcn8tui5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4A2AB4CC01998D46807D8032B06CDBDA02F9152C@EXCHANGE01.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> - - <4A2AB4CC01998D46807D8032B06CDBDA02F9152D@EXCHANGE01.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> -Cc: list On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Weiss, Juergen wrote: @@ -8675,20 +6874,11 @@ As ever, thanks sharing your experience and insight with these issues. I'll put the move to new parser on my todo list. - --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 09 Aug 2007 16:55:02 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: metalex change - - <878x8ktqh7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 09 Aug 2007 16:55:02 -0400 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -8723,25 +6913,13 @@ returns true, and then just call (concatenate T args). If optimized versions for a specific type are needed I would suggest writing them independently as `concat-string', `concat-bit-vec', etc. - Any alternatives? - -Steve - - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 16:02:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: re: metalex change - - <878x8ktqh7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87zm10sa1l.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -8751,21 +6929,11 @@ On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: I'm fine with this. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 09 Aug 2007 17:03:30 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: metalex change - - <878x8ktqh7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87zm10sa1l.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 09 Aug 2007 17:03:30 -0400 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -8779,20 +6947,11 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: OK. I will get a patch together tonight and post. -Steve - - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 23:47:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Franz Lehner To: Bill Page Subject: Re: aldor stream oddities - -Cc: list - -dear all, > "The important thing is to escape the keyword generator by prefix with _." thanks a lot for your quick replies and solutions. @@ -8801,39 +6960,22 @@ and got stuck constructing the zero element. Am I right that there is no sequence domain (of category VectorSpace or Module) in the library yet? -regards, -Franz - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 17:49:19 -0500 -To: Stephen Wilson, - Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +From: Tim Daly +To: Stephen Wilson, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: concatenate and bit-vector -Steve, Gaby, - The semantics of concat are those of vmlisp. It might be possible to prove that concat is never called with bit-vector semantics. The subtle part is to prove that it can't occur in generated code (e.g. algebra). -Tim - - - - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 18:02:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: concatenate and bit-vector On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -8857,18 +6999,11 @@ arguments satisfy the common semantics restrictions, which is that the arguments be of type string. That is all you need to know to fix your code. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 19:03:05 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Franz Lehner Subject: Re: aldor stream oddities - - -Cc: list On 8/9/07, Franz Lehner wrote: > dear all, @@ -8883,17 +7018,10 @@ On 8/9/07, Franz Lehner wrote: What is a "sequence domain"? Can you give a brief explanation or a reference? -Thanks. - -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 18:04:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: newrule from metalex.lisp On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -8914,15 +7042,10 @@ Because I suspected that once we have identified the bug and apply common logic, you will not be willing to accept that there was a bug. Sorry. --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 18:06:35 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: bootstrap Meta/Boot Bill writes: @@ -8947,19 +7070,10 @@ Fortunately in the brave new world we seem to inhabit, there is no sticking place for your objection. You can create your own branch and thus reconstruct Meta in Meta and Boot in Boot. -Tim - - - - - - \start -To: Gabriel Dos Reis - -From: Stephen Wilson Date: 09 Aug 2007 19:11:41 -0400 -Cc: list +From: Stephen Wilson +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: concatenate and bit-vector Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -9003,20 +7117,10 @@ to confusion. Am I missing something? -Steve - - - - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 18:14:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson - - <87odhgs3pu.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list Subject: Re: concatenate and bit-vector On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -9029,20 +7133,12 @@ Did you try in SBCL, for example? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 18:23:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: getrulefunlists - -Tim -- - Yet one more. Consider the routine GETFUNLISTS from src/interp/parsing.lisp: @@ -9091,18 +7187,10 @@ semantics. Indeed, copy-symbol will return a symbol and a symbol is not a sequence. I suspect what you want to pass to SUBSEQ if actually the SYMBOL-NAME of the new symbol. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Gabriel Dos Reis - - <87odhgs3pu.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - -From: Stephen Wilson Date: 09 Aug 2007 19:29:28 -0400 -Cc: list +From: Stephen Wilson +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: concatenate and bit-vector Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -9123,22 +7211,10 @@ I dont have to. 'bar is not a sequence. I still dont understand the problem. - -Steve - - - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 18:32:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson - - <87odhgs3pu.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87k5s4s2w7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list Subject: Re: concatenate and bit-vector On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -9159,18 +7235,11 @@ On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: Good. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 09 Aug 2007 18:40:14 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: re: concatenate and bit-vector - - <87odhgs3pu.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Aug 2007 18:40:14 -0500 -Cc: list Stephen Wilson writes: @@ -9224,22 +7293,10 @@ can be fixed either: It is Tim's call. - - --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Gabriel Dos Reis - - <87odhgs3pu.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87k5s4s2w7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - -From: Stephen Wilson Date: 09 Aug 2007 19:34:58 -0400 -Cc: list +From: Stephen Wilson +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: concatenate and bit-vector Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -9274,23 +7331,10 @@ works, under both #+AKCL and #-AKCL varients. They do not seem inconsistant to me, nor buggy. Could you please explain what the problem is? - -Steve - - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 18:38:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson - - <87odhgs3pu.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87k5s4s2w7.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87fy2ss2n1.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list Subject: Re: concatenate and bit-vector On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -9321,16 +7365,10 @@ or But don't ask me to give a test case that makes the system crash. The ogirinal code just could not make any sense. - --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 18:54:15 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Stephen Wilson -Cc: list Subject: concatenate and bit-vector Steve, @@ -9361,19 +7399,12 @@ I still have the MacLisp and VMLisp documentation but most people do not. The fact that I did not document the semantics of strconc, for instance, is a flaw I hope we can all overcome in the present port. -Tim - - - - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Stephen Wilson Date: 09 Aug 2007 19:53:40 -0400 -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +From: Stephen Wilson +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: concatenate and bit-vector +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Tim Daly writes: @@ -9389,18 +7420,10 @@ A generalization of 'concat might be useful, but that quality is important only when it is actually used. I'll postpone a rewrite of the function until/if it becomes necessary. -Sincerely, -Steve - - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 18:56:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson - <878x8ks1rv.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list Subject: Re: concatenate and bit-vector On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -9422,33 +7445,20 @@ On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: That is also fine with me. The only thing that matters to me is that the bug I reported is fixed. --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 19:10:39 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: Lisp in Small Pieces Lisp in Small Pieces, a fantastically well done literate document, managed to beat out Harrry Potter on Amazon. And it is selling for $4. -Tim - - - - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Stephen Wilson Date: 09 Aug 2007 20:13:46 -0400 -Cc: list +From: Stephen Wilson +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: concatenate and bit-vector Tim, @@ -9477,19 +7487,11 @@ accessible to CL programmers I find fairly motivating. Any objections to this kind of reorganization as we work? -Sincerely, -Steve - - - - - \start +Date: 09 Aug 2007 19:22:05 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Lisp in Small Pieces -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Aug 2007 19:22:05 -0500 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -9499,17 +7501,12 @@ Tim Daly writes: Well, that certainly is an order of magniture smaller than how much I payed ten years ago -- French version. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 20:40:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: list Subject: numberOfEmptySlots - Consider the following function from src/interp/clam.boot: numberOfEmptySlots cache== @@ -9541,15 +7538,11 @@ Note: a /= b is almost same like (not (equal a b)). What is the semantics of function numberOfEmptySlots? What is the structure of its parameter? --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 09 Aug 2007 21:06:07 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: list Subject: Re: numberOfEmptySlots -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Aug 2007 21:06:07 -0500 Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -9588,15 +7581,10 @@ where NEW is the macro (from vmlisp.lisp) (defmacro neq (a b) `(not (eq ,a ,b))) --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 22:19:12 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot On 8/9/07, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -9653,51 +7641,29 @@ Indeed I could had I the time and skill. Luckly there are some other motivated people more qualified than I, which leaves my remaining time available for answering emails such as these. ;-) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 21:30:42 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Stephen Wilson -Cc: list Subject: concatenate and bit-vector I plan to rewrite functions into ANSI as I encounter them so, no, I have no objections to a reorganization. -Tim - - - - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 21:45:09 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list Subject: numberOfEmptySlots The NE occurs in boot code. Perhaps the author meant to use the infix form NE? -Tim - - - - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 22:58:20 -0400 From: Bill Page To: list -Subject: Simon Peyton-Jones video on the "threshold of - immortality" (and Haskell) +Subject: Simon Peyton-Jones video on the "threshold of immortality" (and Haskell) Talk posted by Bruce Stewart: @@ -9718,16 +7684,10 @@ Python. I think that if Axiom is going to survive another 30 years, then we very badly need to get closer to this threshold. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 22:09:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: numberOfEmptySlots On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -9745,17 +7705,11 @@ Hmm. Looking at the code, it is comparing lists and x is taken from cache, then using ^= would lead to infinite loop. No? --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 09 Aug 2007 22:37:00 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: re: bootstrap Meta/Boot - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Aug 2007 22:37:00 -0500 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -9780,17 +7734,11 @@ code. Think Unix, think C. Think Spad, think high level. Fortunately, Boot is already written in Boot and we have a 2-3 stage Boot-strap. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Bill Page -Subject: Re: Simon Peyton-Jones video on the "threshold of - immortality" (and Haskell) -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 09 Aug 2007 22:42:18 -0500 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: Simon Peyton-Jones video on the "threshold of immortality" (and Haskell) Bill Page writes: @@ -9818,17 +7766,11 @@ SPJ. I wish we had more Simons working on Axiom... --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:03:19 -0700 From: Ed Borasky - rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070807 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 To: list Subject: re: bootstrap Meta/Boot - <87fy2s6owz.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Bill Page writes: @@ -9874,16 +7816,11 @@ arrays of floating point values, graphics, etc. while providing reasonable efficiency and portability. But does it really need so many sub-languages? - - \start +Date: 09 Aug 2007 23:25:52 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ed Borasky Subject: re: bootstrap Meta/Boot - - <87fy2s6owz.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46BBE387.40500@cesmail.net> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Aug 2007 23:25:52 -0500 -Cc: list Ed Borasky writes: @@ -9916,17 +7853,11 @@ low level of Lisp. Standard ML compilers were once written in Lisp. They are no more. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:41:27 -0700 From: Ed Borasky - rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070807 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 To: list Subject: re: bootstrap Meta/Boot - <46BBE387.40500@cesmail.net> <87k5s45833.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -9981,14 +7912,10 @@ deserves better than that. Are they written in Standard ML? If so, they've successfully taken down the scaffolding. - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 23:48:27 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Ed Borasky -Cc: list Subject: bootstrap Meta/Boot > But does it really need so many sub-languages? @@ -10022,18 +7949,10 @@ It hardly matters. The "new world" allows everyone to do whatever suits their mood by creating their own branch. This will eventually undermine the whole effort rendering the language debate mute. -Tim - - - - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 23:53:42 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Ed Borasky -Cc: list Subject: bootstrap Meta/Boot > the one that I think has the strongest legs is Erlang @@ -10045,17 +7964,9 @@ SBCL threads, and some transparent networking I believe this could all be implemented in common lisp. Laying this model under the algebra gives us the ability to write parallel algebra using provisos transparently. -Tim - - - - - - \start Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:18:44 -0700 From: Ed Borasky - rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070807 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 To: list Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot @@ -10091,12 +8002,9 @@ tests with Erlang itself. Presumably it could be implemented in SBCL if it can be implemented in Scheme. Google for Scheme Gambit Termite and you'll find it. - - \start Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:29:21 -0700 From: Ed Borasky - rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070807 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 To: list Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot @@ -10153,13 +8061,10 @@ Lisp. I've forgotten the details, but eventually the developers were forced to rewrite it in Lisp, and indeed, to build their own Lisp on the 8086/DOS/DOS Extenders platform as well. - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 00:36:55 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Ed Borasky -Cc: list Subject: bootstrap Meta/Boot (ah, forth. i do so love forth) @@ -10178,18 +8083,10 @@ No other language gets this right. Unfortunately there is no way to fake this connection in scheme. So while I like the idea I think they blew THE fundamental detail. -Tim - - - - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 00:40:58 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Ed Borasky -Cc: list Subject: bootstrap Meta/Boot >> It hardly matters. The "new world" allows everyone to do whatever @@ -10201,21 +8098,11 @@ Subject: bootstrap Meta/Boot Precisely. Vanishingly small. -Tim - - - - - - \start +Date: 10 Aug 2007 07:42:45 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Franz Lehner Subject: Re: aldor stream oddities - - -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 10 Aug 2007 07:42:45 +0200 -Cc: list Franz Lehner writes: @@ -10231,16 +8118,10 @@ Franz Lehner writes: Do you mean "potentially" infinite sequences of some ground ring, with componentwise addition and scalar multiplication? -MArtin - - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 00:45:34 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Ed Borasky -Cc: list Subject: bootstrap Meta/Boot > Derive .... @@ -10255,19 +8136,11 @@ TI lost interest. It went up the management chain at TI. As of last week the effort officially failed. -Tim - - - - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 23:19:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: concatenate and bit-vector To: Tim Daly, Stephen Wilson -Cc: list +Subject: Re: concatenate and bit-vector --- Tim Daly wrote: @@ -10321,24 +8194,11 @@ looking first at what "higher level" components of Axiom are supposed to be doing and then re-think how to do those jobs in light of modern Lisp environments? -Cheers, -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. -http://sims.yahoo.com/ - - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 00:02:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp +To: Bill Page, Tim Daly Subject: re: bootstrap Meta/Boot -To: Bill Page, - Tim Daly -Cc: list --- Bill Page wrote: @@ -10400,20 +8260,11 @@ possibility to me as "future proofing" against the bootstrap problem. Of course, there's also the CADR Lisp Machine information at MIT, which is also very interesting :-). - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. -http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC - - - \start Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 23:43:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp +To: Ed Borasky Subject: re: bootstrap Meta/Boot -To: "M. Edward \(Ed\) Borasky" Ed Borasky, list -Cc: --- Ed Borasky wrote: @@ -10448,65 +8299,26 @@ functionality for the least amount of low level machine/assembly coding. I'm currently trying to track down some older work that was done on implementing Lisp in Forth. -Cheers, -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Need a vacation? Get great deals -to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. -http://travel.yahoo.com/ - - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 00:04:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Lisp in Small Pieces -To: Tim Daly, list -Cc: Not at $4 any more. I didn't notice it in time. Arrrgh. -CY - --- Tim Daly wrote: > Lisp in Small Pieces, a fantastically well done literate document, > managed to beat out Harrry Potter on Amazon. And it is selling for > $4. > -> -> Tim -> -> -> -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> - - - - ____________________________________________________________________________________ -Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. -http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:20:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Franz Lehner To: Bill Page Subject: Re: aldor stream oddities - - - -Cc: list On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: > What is a "sequence domain"? Can you give a brief explanation or a reference? @@ -10527,17 +8339,11 @@ directly. Before digging into the guess code or aldor-combinat where I suspect similar things are done, I thought I'd ask for "clever" solutions here. -regards -Franz - - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:01:12 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot -Cc: list > Fortunately in the brave new world we seem to inhabit, there is no > sticking place for your objection. You can create your own branch and @@ -10562,17 +8368,11 @@ BTW, why do you think it is so essential that the underlying language of Axiom must be LISP? If I now start a branch and convert Axiom to Haskell, or Assembler would you object? Would you be interested? -Ralf - - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:01:52 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Franz Lehner Subject: Re: aldor stream oddities - -Cc: list On 08/10/2007 10:20 AM, Franz Lehner wrote: > On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -10646,17 +8446,11 @@ functions that require a complete equality on R are not exported when R is not a Ring. Similarly, while DenseUnivariatePolynomial(R) is always an ArithmeticType, it is a Ring only when R itself is a Ring. - - - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 05:33:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot To: Ralf Hemmecke, Tim Daly -Cc: list - +Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot --- Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -10692,26 +8486,11 @@ the bootstrapping issue as pointless. Just IMHO, Lisp code intended for human consumption is actually fairly readable. Boot's output is not a good way to judge. -Cheers, -CY - - - ____________________________________________________________________________________ -Luggage? GPS? Comic books? -Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search -http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz - - - \start +Date: 10 Aug 2007 08:25:46 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ed Borasky Subject: re: bootstrap Meta/Boot - - <87fy2s6owz.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46BBE387.40500@cesmail.net> - <87k5s45833.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46BBEC77.4010807@cesmail.net> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 10 Aug 2007 08:25:46 -0500 -Cc: list Ed Borasky writes: @@ -10781,16 +8560,11 @@ When you don't get to bootstrap yourself, yes. Most of them are now written in SML complitemented with a bit of C. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 10 Aug 2007 08:28:07 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: bootstrap Meta/Boot -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 10 Aug 2007 08:28:07 -0500 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -10810,16 +8584,11 @@ As does any modern assembly language. If you're going to consider Forth, at least use PostScript :-) --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 10 Aug 2007 08:37:08 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 10 Aug 2007 08:37:08 -0500 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -10847,17 +8616,11 @@ make your point? We just has discussions and evidence posted on the list that we are not using Common Lisp. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 10 Aug 2007 08:39:24 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ed Borasky Subject: re: bootstrap Meta/Boot - <46BBF7B1.5060009@cesmail.net> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 10 Aug 2007 08:39:24 -0500 -Cc: list Ed Borasky writes: @@ -10881,16 +8644,11 @@ would make reviving Meta a non issue. Now, it you know Spad, them I claim you know Boot. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 10 Aug 2007 08:41:43 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 10 Aug 2007 08:41:43 -0500 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -10898,15 +8656,10 @@ Tim Daly writes: That is a matter of opinion, and open to debate. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 06:44:02 -0700 From: Ed Borasky - rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070807 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 -CC: list +To: list Subject: re: bootstrap Meta/Boot C Y wrote: @@ -10955,15 +8708,11 @@ That's one of the reasons I prefer Scheme to Lisp these days ... there are more low-level hacks and tweaks and virtual machines and other efficiency-oriented gizmos for Scheme than there are for Lisp. - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 06:57:08 -0700 From: Ed Borasky - rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070807 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 To: list Subject: re: bootstrap Meta/Boot - <87mywz4igj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -10991,14 +8740,11 @@ Derive fan ever since. So ... what gives a language staying power, and how should Axiom evolve to get staying power? - - \start +Date: 10 Aug 2007 09:10:59 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 10 Aug 2007 09:10:59 -0500 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -11021,18 +8767,11 @@ As a case in point, people can admire bookvol5. Independently of that, the rewrite into Lisp is a setback to stoneages. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 10 Aug 2007 09:18:04 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ed Borasky Subject: re: bootstrap Meta/Boot - <46BBF7B1.5060009@cesmail.net> <87mywz4igj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <46BC6EB4.8050508@cesmail.net> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 10 Aug 2007 09:18:04 -0500 -Cc: list Ed Borasky writes: @@ -11050,14 +8789,9 @@ I don't know. What do you think? Ask them. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:13:22 -0700 From: Ed Borasky - rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070807 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 To: list Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot @@ -11082,15 +8816,11 @@ Speaking (again) of TI, I've encountered bugs in the derivative finder on the TI-89 and Voyage 200 calculators. The software for those is frozen too, because of NSpire. I love my HP-49. :) - - - \start +Date: 10 Aug 2007 09:21:01 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Successful build-improvements compilation -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 10 Aug 2007 09:21:01 -0500 -Cc: axiom-dev Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -11150,15 +8880,11 @@ Please, let me know. Thanks for your patience. @echo Axiom installation finished. @ - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:36:56 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Lisp in Small Pieces - <842036.67827.qm@web56706.mail.re3.yahoo.com> -Cc: list On 8/10/07, C Y wrote: > Not at $4 any more. I didn't notice it in time. Arrrgh. @@ -11172,17 +8898,11 @@ receiving my book for $3.99 + about $6 for shipping, not bad for 900+ page book I thought. Now we will see if it actually shows up in a few days. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:01:09 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: Gabriel Dos Reis, axiom-dev +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Successful build-improvements compilation -Cc: Since you've only changed something to the "install" target, I simply said (-r703) @@ -11234,18 +8954,12 @@ On 08/10/2007 04:21 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > > I've installed the patch below at revision 703. > Please, let me know. Thanks for your patience. -> -> -- Gaby - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:03:55 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: bootstrap Meta/Boot - <743642.79205.qm@web56709.mail.re3.yahoo.com> -Cc: list On 8/10/07, C Y wrote: > --- Ed Borasky wrote: @@ -11269,20 +8983,11 @@ Other emails on this list from Mike Dewar of NAG have made it clear that NAG would have had no objections to releasing an open source version of Axiom that required a running Axiom to compile. -> ... - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:11:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Successful build-improvements compilation - <46BC7DB5.9060007@hemmecke.de> -Cc: axiom-dev On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -11297,19 +9002,12 @@ always /usr/local/bin, which always existed. However, the hypertex binaries are sequestered inside Axiom's install path so, I don't understand why you're seeing that failure and not me. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:14:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis -To: fricas-devel@googlegroups.com - <85e81ba30708100803u20d5ce99n583778d3f4229d19@mail.gmail.com> -Cc: list, sage-devel@googlegroups.com, - Pete Chvany -Subject: Re: [fricas-devel] Re: Sage Build, - a few more hiccups +To: list +Subject: Re: [fricas-devel] Re: Sage Build, a few more hiccups +Cc: Pete Chvany On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, William Stein wrote: @@ -11336,17 +9034,10 @@ It has been reported many times, that Axiom can be built on OSX. So, if there is any outstanding issue with respect to Axiom build on OSX, it would be good to report to Axiom people. I'm CC:int axiom-developer. -Thanks, - --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:17:29 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list Subject: bootstrap Meta/Boot Tim wrote: @@ -11367,21 +9058,12 @@ The project is on sourceforge and savannah. The work has traditionally involved rewriting only in Common Lisp and Spad. I've been at it for years now. -Tim - - - - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 10 Aug 2007 10:31:51 -0500 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: Variables in traceComp - Tim -- Consider the function traceComp from spad.lisp @@ -11407,18 +9089,11 @@ I cannot find a relevant definition of the variables $x, $m, and $f. Neither can the SBCL compiler. Is it likely that when you translated the original Boot code to Lisp you mistyped $x for |$x|, etc? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:36:22 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Successful build-improvements compilation - <46BC7DB5.9060007@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: axiom-dev On 8/10/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -11448,19 +9123,12 @@ also running Debian. If the solution requires more input, I can send you some build logs (much) later today. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 10 Aug 2007 10:39:37 -0500 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: |New,ENTRY,2| - Tim -- Consider the routine @@ -11478,21 +9146,11 @@ from spad.lisp. When you translated the original code form BOOT to Lisp, you misted $previousTime for |$previousTime|. --- Gaby - - - - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:41:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Successful build-improvements compilation - <46BC7DB5.9060007@hemmecke.de> - - -Cc: axiom-dev On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -11526,17 +9184,11 @@ not supposed to happen. Investigating... --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 08:44:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp +To: Ed Borasky Subject: re: bootstrap Meta/Boot -To: "M. Edward \(Ed\) Borasky" Ed Borasky -Cc: list - --- Ed Borasky wrote: @@ -11582,24 +9234,11 @@ Probably due to the uses to which each is put - scheme, being smaller, makes more sense for embedded applications and performance tweaks are more critical there - applications are still hardware limited. -Cheers, and thanks! - -CY - - - ____________________________________________________________________________________ -Luggage? GPS? Comic books? -Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search -http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz - - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 08:51:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot --- Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -11620,23 +9259,11 @@ anyone were going to convince anyone else I would have expected it to happen by now. The only way from this point is to have people try things and make decisions based on experience. -Cheers, -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. -http://sims.yahoo.com/ - - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:58:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot -Cc: list On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, C Y wrote: @@ -11650,19 +9277,11 @@ On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, C Y wrote: I'm looking forward to your concrete realization. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 10 Aug 2007 11:05:33 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Successful build-improvements compilation - <87fy2r31yq.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46BC7DB5.9060007@hemmecke.de> - - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 10 Aug 2007 11:05:33 -0500 -Cc: axiom-dev Bill Page writes: @@ -11728,13 +9347,10 @@ Many thanks, char *SessionManagerProgram = "$AXIOM/lib/session"; char *SpadClientProgram = "$AXIOM/lib/spadclient"; - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:13:54 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list Subject: bootstrap Meta/Boot > BTW, why do you think it is so essential that the underlying language of @@ -11775,19 +9391,11 @@ I'm focused on getting the interpreter, compiler, and other internal machinery into a clean, uniform, literate form in one already existing language. My focus is on organizing and explaining what is already there. -Tim - - - - - - \start +Date: 10 Aug 2007 11:25:03 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 10 Aug 2007 11:25:03 -0500 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -11801,16 +9409,11 @@ Tim Daly writes: Proof by analogy is fraud. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 10 Aug 2007 11:26:05 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 10 Aug 2007 11:26:05 -0500 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -11820,15 +9423,10 @@ Tim Daly writes: Well, that is probably when one discounts other natural languages around. --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:24:56 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: bootstrap Meta/Boot Bill writes: @@ -11839,35 +9437,19 @@ Bill writes: Please reference those emails. -Tim - - - - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 10 Aug 2007 11:28:27 -0500 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: $traceflag - -Tim -- - I believe the use of $TRACEFLAG in the routine S-PROCESS (spad.lisp) is a typo for |$TraceFlag|. --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:33:47 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: bootstrap Meta/Boot Tim writes: @@ -11881,19 +9463,11 @@ Gaby writes: Yes, it is. Reasoning by analogy is not. -Tim - - - - - - \start +Date: 10 Aug 2007 11:43:11 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 10 Aug 2007 11:43:11 -0500 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -11910,20 +9484,11 @@ Tim Daly writes: Define "reasoning". --- Gaby - - - \start -Subject: RE: |New,ENTRY,2| Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:38:55 +0200 -Thread-Topic: |New,ENTRY,2| -Thread-Index: AcfbZK2BTZfDBMotTtGpuK2X0fFdMQABBTEw From: Juergen Weiss To: Gabriel Dos Reis, - Tim Daly - FILETIME=[F1D75340:01C7DB6C] -Cc: list +Subject: RE: |New,ENTRY,2| Hi, @@ -11943,22 +9508,22 @@ that ;-). Juergen Weiss | Universitaet Mainz, Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung, Juergen Weiss| 55099 Mainz, Tel: +49(6131)39-26361, FAX: +49(6131)39-26407 -=20 + > -----Original Message----- -> From: axiom-developer-bounces+weiss=3Duni-mainz.de@nongnu.org=20 +> From: axiom-developer-bounces+weiss=uni-mainz.de@nongnu.org > On Behalf Of Gabriel Dos Reis > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 5:40 PM > To: Tim Daly > Cc: list > Subject: |New,ENTRY,2| ->=20 ->=20 +> +> > Tim -- ->=20 -> Consider the routine=20 ->=20 -> (defun |New,ENTRY,2| (RULE FN INPUTSTREAM) (declare (special=20 +> +> Consider the routine +> +> (defun |New,ENTRY,2| (RULE FN INPUTSTREAM) (declare (special > INPUTSTREAM)) > (let (zz) > (INITIALIZE) @@ -11966,52 +9531,29 @@ Juergen Weiss| 55099 Mainz, Tel: +49(6131)39-26361, FAX: > (setq ZZ (CONVERSATION '|PARSE-NewExpr| '|process|)) > (REMFLAG |boot-NewKEY| 'KEY) > INPUTSTREAM)) ->=20 +> > from spad.lisp. ->=20 +> > When you translated the original code form BOOT to Lisp, you misted > $previousTime for |$previousTime|. ->=20 -> -- Gaby ->=20 ->=20 ->=20 ->=20 -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer ->=20 - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 10 Aug 2007 11:39:11 -0500 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: NewSYSTOK - -Tim -- - There is this line in spad.lisp (SETQ SINGLINEMODE T) ; SEE NewSYSTOK Where is NewSYSTOK? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:42:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Juergen Weiss Subject: RE: |New,ENTRY,2| - <4A2AB4CC01998D46807D8032B06CDBDA02F91530@EXCHANGE01.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> -Cc: list On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Weiss, Juergen wrote: @@ -12039,20 +9581,12 @@ Thanks! Yup; and that is what is making my life miserable at the moment ;-) --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 10 Aug 2007 11:45:41 -0500 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: Use of $ - -Tim -- - The file spad.lisp contains the following line at toplevel: ;; the following initialization of $ must not be a defvar @@ -12065,20 +9599,12 @@ the problem? The SBCL compiler does not like it, because it thinks $ is not defined. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 10 Aug 2007 12:54:36 -0500 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: Definition of big float marker - -Tim -- - $BFtag has conflicting settings. In bootfuns.lisp, it is defined as @@ -12093,16 +9619,10 @@ However, setq.lisp want to set it at Brute force grep reveals both postprop.lisp and property.lisp want '|:BF:|. --- Gaby - - - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:00:25 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2005-11/msg00211.html @@ -12164,20 +9684,11 @@ On 8/10/07, Tim Daly Tim Daly wrote: > > version of Axiom that required a running Axiom to compile. > > Please reference those emails. -> -> Tim -> -> -> -> - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:17:31 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list Subject: Definition of big float marker I think you're seeing symptoms of the massive amount of change @@ -12189,18 +9700,10 @@ in dead code or are redefinitions affected by file load order. All I can suggest is to decide which marker is correct, move it to the global list in bookvol5, and document its use. -Tim - - - - - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:24:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: Definition of big float marker On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -12224,20 +9727,12 @@ bookvol5 should be stripped down so that logical logical definitions go at natural places, not just bookvol5. Many things in bookvol5 do not belong there, and are not needed to build depsys. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 10 Aug 2007 13:35:05 -0500 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: B-MDEF - -Tim -- - The SBCL compiler does not like the definition of B-MDEF in def.lisp: (defun B-MDEF (FORM SIGNATURE $BODY) @@ -12279,15 +9774,10 @@ we really want to say ^ was missing --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:29:06 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: bootstrap Meta/Boot Mike was certainly very helpful in the early effort to get things @@ -12339,19 +9829,11 @@ you raised the issue it appears that you would rather have a different building strategy than we currently use. You have the original sources so you're welcome to create your own branch and try. -Tim - - - - - - \start +Date: 10 Aug 2007 14:42:57 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 10 Aug 2007 14:42:57 -0500 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -12374,15 +9856,10 @@ as it does today -- and to extend it to other platforms where needed. do you still have a link to the original open sourced Axiom from NAG? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:43:57 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot On 8/10/07, Tim Daly Tim Daly wrote: @@ -12397,16 +9874,10 @@ Waldek posted a message to this list a couple of months ago stating that he had successfully built Axiom from the original NAG sources using CCL. (Please check the archives.) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:45:38 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: 20070810.01.tpd.patch This patch removes src/interp/metameta.lisp.pamphlet which is @@ -13340,19 +10811,11 @@ index 850237d..eaa76b7 100644 BOOT::|$QuickCode| BOOT::GENVAR BOOT::|$TypeEqui| BOOT::TOKEN-TYPE BOOT::|updateSourceFiles| BOOT::|$BFtag| - - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 22:51:32 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Successful build-improvements compilation - <46BC7DB5.9060007@hemmecke.de> - - - <87hcn7xtma.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -Cc: axiom-dev On 10 Aug 2007 11:05:33 -0500, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > @@ -13361,22 +10824,11 @@ On 10 Aug 2007 11:05:33 -0500, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: Thanks! It works now. :-) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 22:28:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Successful build-improvements compilation - <46BC7DB5.9060007@hemmecke.de> - - - <87hcn7xtma.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - -Cc: axiom-dev On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -13387,18 +10839,12 @@ On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: | | Thanks! It works now. :-) -Thanks for the report. - --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 23:34:13 -0400 From: Bill Page To: list -Cc: Markus Cozowicz Subject: Statistik Wiki implementation of Axiom interface +Cc: Markus Cozowicz Markus Cozowicz has implemented a MediaWiki interface for Axiom. This allows Axiom to be used on MediaWiki (the same wiki software as used @@ -13630,23 +11076,12 @@ Bill Page. > code is a serious risk, I think the best option would be to run > Axiom in a chroot environment or perhaps on a separate virtual > machine using Xen or other VM tool. -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> -> - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:55:37 -0700 From: Ed Borasky - rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070807 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 To: list Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot - <87hcn7we5c.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Tim Daly writes: @@ -13675,15 +11110,11 @@ created Forth. It was a merging of Burroughs Algol, Fortran and IBM 1130 machine language. About the only programming languages that *aren't* descendants of Fortran are Lisp, COBOL and APL. - - \start Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:08:58 -0700 From: Ed Borasky - rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070807 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 To: list Subject: Re: Lisp in Small Pieces - Bill Page wrote: > On 8/10/07, C Y wrote: @@ -13704,15 +11135,11 @@ Bill Page wrote: Amazon USA had some at something like $51 US. I got one. It's great -- well worth $51! - - - \start +Date: 10 Aug 2007 23:51:03 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: 20070810.01.tpd.patch -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 10 Aug 2007 23:51:03 -0500 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -13721,18 +11148,11 @@ Tim Daly writes: This should go to silver. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:55:04 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Successful build-improvements compilation - <46BC7DB5.9060007@hemmecke.de> - <87hcn7xtma.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -Cc: axiom-dev Hello Gaby, @@ -13748,19 +11168,11 @@ Ralf old> ! char *HypertexProgram = "$AXIOM/bin/hypertex -s"; new> ! char *HypertexProgram = "$AXIOM/lib/hypertex -s"; - - - \start +Date: 11 Aug 2007 07:50:12 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Successful build-improvements compilation - <87fy2r31yq.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46BC7DB5.9060007@hemmecke.de> - - - <87hcn7xtma.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46BDA398.4080109@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 11 Aug 2007 07:50:12 -0500 -Cc: axiom-dev Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -13774,18 +11186,11 @@ Ralf Hemmecke writes: | Thank you. -Thank *you*. - --- Gaby - - - \start -Subject: Re: 20070810.01.tpd.patch +Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 16:55:12 +0200 From: Gregory Vanuxem To: Tim Daly -Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 16:55:12 +0200 -Cc: list +Subject: Re: 20070810.01.tpd.patch Hello Tim, @@ -13827,20 +11232,10 @@ the character itself." Is this intentional ? And why ? -Greg - - - - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 10:04:39 -0500 -To: "Arthur C. Ralfs" , - "James Davenport" , - "Mike Dewar" Mike Dewar -Cc: list +From: Tim Daly +To: Arthur Ralfs, James Davenport, Mike Dewar Subject: 20070811.01.tpd.patch *, @@ -13864,17 +11259,11 @@ A set of test cases are available in a fully built system at: xdvi $AXIOM/doc/src/input/mathml.input.dvi -Tim Daly - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:05:03 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Ed Borasky Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot - <87hcn7we5c.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46BD3339.6070607@cesmail.net> -Cc: list On 8/10/07, Ed Borasky wrote: > Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -13897,33 +11286,20 @@ On 8/10/07, Ed Borasky wrote: The first Lisp I ever used was written in Fortran and ran on a PDP 11. :-) -Regards, -Bill Page - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 10:17:52 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Gregory Vanuxem -Cc: list Subject: 20070810.01.tpd.patch bug -Greg, - No, the traces should not be there. Part of my testing machinery escaped. I'll fix that shortly. -Tim - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 10:31:13 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: 20070811.02.tpd.patch The following patch removes the trace commands from the file @@ -13977,16 +11353,11 @@ index 5778b44..bd491f9 100644 \eject \begin{thebibliography}{99} - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 08:39:29 -0700 From: Ed Borasky - rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070807 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 To: list Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot - <87hcn7we5c.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46BD3339.6070607@cesmail.net> - Bill Page wrote: > The first Lisp I ever used was written in Fortran and ran on a PDP 11. :-) @@ -13999,17 +11370,12 @@ even came close IMHO was the Texas Instruments 9900. But the *real* Lispniks of the day used PDP 6/10 "mainframes" -- how were those implemented? - - \start -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 11 Aug 2007 11:29:16 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: ChangeLog on Silver - -Hi, - I have some changes to Silver down in pipeline (some of them were brought here and discussed on the list). However, before doing that, I would like to establish as a policy that we use -- from now on -- @@ -14034,20 +11400,12 @@ current practice. I'll be implementing that on Silver shortly. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: gcl-devel@gnu.org -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 11 Aug 2007 11:32:57 -0500 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: GCL-2.6.8pre and type punning - -Hi, - Building GCL-2.6.8pre included in Axiom elicites lots of warnings of the style: @@ -14087,32 +11445,20 @@ Configured with: ../configure --enable-threads=posix --prefix=/usr --with-local- Thread model: posix gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (SUSE Linux) --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:36:53 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list Subject: ChangeLog on Silver -Gaby, - We already have a standard changelog format. It's been "standard" since August 20, 2003, approximately 4 years. See the file changelog. -Tim - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:38:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: ChangeLog on Silver On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -14124,19 +11470,11 @@ On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Tim Daly wrote: No, we don't. We have Tim-ChangeLog format. That isn't a standard changelog format. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 12:42:04 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Ed Borasky Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot - <87hcn7we5c.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46BD3339.6070607@cesmail.net> - - <46BDD831.3010105@cesmail.net> -Cc: list On 8/11/07, Ed Borasky Ed Borasky wrote: > Bill Page wrote: @@ -14199,17 +11537,9 @@ attempt to describe a complete and efficient Lisp interpreter; instead, it concentrates on the description of a minimal set of pseudo-instructions and their actions. ------- - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 09:45:20 -0700 From: Ed Borasky - rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070807 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 To: list Subject: Re: ChangeLog on Silver @@ -14254,15 +11584,11 @@ word -- usually I hear a term that *rhymes* with "deprecate" :)) I think a Cygwin Axiom would be better than a native port, since Hyperdoc would be there, as would (IIRC) the TeXmacs interface. - - \start +Date: 11 Aug 2007 11:53:59 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: ChangeLog on Silver -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 11 Aug 2007 11:53:59 -0500 -Cc: list - Tim, look at @@ -14272,16 +11598,11 @@ No need to invent anything here. Plus, existing editors already assist in the matter. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 11 Aug 2007 12:01:03 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ed Borasky Subject: Re: ChangeLog on Silver -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 11 Aug 2007 12:01:03 -0500 -Cc: list Ed Borasky writes: @@ -14318,21 +11639,11 @@ I have been doing native builds of Axiom on Windows and I'm happy with it. Last time I tried, Axiom build on Cygwin won't succeed because of GCL issues. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 09:59:51 -0700 From: Ed Borasky - rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070807 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 To: list Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot - <87hcn7we5c.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <46BD3339.6070607@cesmail.net> - - <46BDD831.3010105@cesmail.net> - Bill Page wrote: > You can find (almost) anything on the Web @@ -14344,16 +11655,11 @@ To Be", http://www.cs.ru.nl/~freek/aut/ - - - - \start +Date: 11 Aug 2007 12:10:35 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: B-MDEF -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 11 Aug 2007 12:10:35 -0500 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -14432,29 +11738,20 @@ Applied to Axiom.silver. (LIST 'QUOTE $BODY)))) - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 12:17:33 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list Subject: ChangeLog on Silver So you felt that the project standard should be overruled for a standard you found elsewhere. Then you ignored my objection and made the change to trunk. Is that correct? -Tim - - - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 12:23:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: ChangeLog on Silver On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -14472,31 +11769,19 @@ There is no place for NIH. I did not ignore it. On the contrary, I addressed it. --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 12:29:53 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list Subject: ChangeLog on Silver So you feel that Martin's democracy rules are nonsense and that your opinion is now the rule of law? -Tim - - - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 12:31:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: ChangeLog on Silver On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -14509,16 +11794,11 @@ That has nothing to do with this. As for the rules Martin proposed, I already expressed my difference and posted amendments/suggestions. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 11 Aug 2007 12:41:02 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: getrulefunlists -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 11 Aug 2007 12:41:02 -0500 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -14602,15 +11882,11 @@ Installed on Axiom.silver. (if unpfx-funlist (list pfx-funlist unpfx-funlist)))) - - \start +Date: 11 Aug 2007 13:41:36 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: getrulefunlists - <878x8i9dg1.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 11 Aug 2007 13:41:36 -0400 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > *** src/interp/parsing.lisp.pamphlet (revision 21589) @@ -14645,18 +11921,10 @@ In vmlisp.lisp: Thus (subseq (pname x) n) should be sufficient. Quite a lot of redundant code in the above. - -Thanks, -Steve - - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 12:46:25 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list Subject: ChangeLog on Silver The Axiom project is not the GNU project. @@ -14674,20 +11942,11 @@ You simply ignored me. So now this is "Gaby's Project"? -Tim - - - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 12:47:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: getrulefunlists - <878x8i9dg1.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87sl6qq88f.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -14726,15 +11985,10 @@ computationally expensive than it needs to be is a separate matter. Now that it is type correct, you can rewrite the whole function reducing reduncies :-) --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 12:48:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: ChangeLog on Silver On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -14743,15 +11997,10 @@ On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Tim Daly wrote: I'm not going to follow you there. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 12:50:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: ChangeLog on Silver On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -14763,17 +12012,11 @@ As you say "So you declare, so it is..." No, I did not ignore you. I carefully considered your reply and properly addressed it. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 14:03:07 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: ChangeLog on Silver - -Cc: list On 8/11/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -14795,20 +12038,11 @@ FWIW, you've got my "vote": It seems that this is the only way the Axiom project can progress. I hope you will be able to proceed with changes to the build system. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:05:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: re: ChangeLog on Silver - - -Cc: list - Bill -- @@ -14825,16 +12059,11 @@ with enough consensus. I hope too be able to get a non-controversial initial bit in by this week-end -- but hey, week-end is all I get with my family... --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 11 Aug 2007 13:40:31 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: $traceflag -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 11 Aug 2007 13:40:31 -0500 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -14873,18 +12102,11 @@ Applied to Axiom.silver. (|parseTransform| (|postTransform| X)))) - \start -Subject: re: ChangeLog on Silver Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 20:37:03 +0200 -Thread-Topic: Re: ChangeLog on Silver -Thread-Index: AcfcQeLLVJJHKH+jS/qd174ywTdWdAAA/nEg - From: Juergen Weiss -To: Bill Page, - Gabriel Dos Reis - FILETIME=[9CD3DBE0:01C7DC46] -Cc: list +To: Bill Page, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: ChangeLog on Silver We should go with the standards used by other projects and supported in standard tools (as emacs etc). This helps all developers. There should = @@ -14893,23 +12115,8 @@ a real good reason to deviate from `best practices=B4. And I do not see any reason not to use the changelog format supported by standard editors. So I vote for the change. -Regards - -Juergen Weiss - -Juergen Weiss | Universitaet Mainz, Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung, -Juergen Weiss| 55099 Mainz, Tel: +49(6131)39-26361, FAX: = -+49(6131)39-26407 -=20 - > -----Original Message----- -> From: axiom-developer-bounces+weiss=3Duni-mainz.de@nongnu.org=20 -> On Behalf Of Bill Page -> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 8:03 PM -> To: Gabriel Dos Reis -> Cc: list -> Subject: re: ChangeLog on Silver ->=20 +> > On 8/11/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > > On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Tim Daly wrote: > > @@ -14920,40 +12127,21 @@ Juergen Weiss| 55099 Mainz, Tel: +49(6131)39-26361, FAX: = > > No, I did not ignore you. I carefully considered your reply and > > properly addressed it. > > ->=20 +> > Gaby, ->=20 +> > FWIW, you've got my "vote": ->=20 +> > +1 ->=20 +> > It seems that this is the only way the Axiom project can progress. I > hope you will be able to proceed with changes to the build system. ->=20 -> Regards, -> Bill Page. ->=20 ->=20 -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer ->=20 - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 20:55:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Franz Lehner To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: aldor stream oddities - - - - - <46BC3790.5060501@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list - > Now, in Axiom we should have a problem with saying that S is an additive > group. @@ -15000,21 +12188,11 @@ the existing generate(S->S,S), but this one looks more natural. again I only could test it as a package due to the bootstrap problem in the spoon. -regards -Franz - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 14:21:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: ChangeLog on Silver - - - <9qtzr5khm9.fsf@hilbert.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list - Martin -- @@ -15025,19 +12203,12 @@ Bill -- I sent an email to mathaction (which I'm subscribed to) but I'm not seeing anything out... --- Gaby - - - \start -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 11 Aug 2007 17:52:14 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: A curious algebra failure - -Hi, - This issue pops up while looking at a type error in src/interp/c-util.boot. @@ -15195,21 +12366,12 @@ Monad(): Category == SetCategory with for i in 1..(n-1) repeat res := a * res res - - --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 18:25:56 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Martin Rubey -Cc: list Subject: ChangeLog on Silver -Martin, - > I felt quite bad when I saw Gaby's post announcing the ChangeLog format > change and a little while later Tim's reply: @@ -15231,16 +12393,11 @@ Keep up the sham. What a waste of time. -Tim - - - \start +Date: 11 Aug 2007 18:35:51 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: ChangeLog on Silver -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 11 Aug 2007 18:35:51 -0500 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -15255,16 +12412,11 @@ Tim Daly writes: You're missing Gaby's replies. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:53:10 -0400 From: Stephen Wilson To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure -Cc: list From: Stephen Wilson Date: 11 Aug 2007 19:52:56 -0400 @@ -15293,19 +12445,11 @@ Simply redefining pname and )co MONAD.spad as you suggested does not reveal the algebra failure you reported. Is this occurring only upon a complete rebuild for you? - -Steve - - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:04:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - <200708112353.l7BNrATa023414@matrix.start.ca> -Cc: list On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -15350,15 +12494,10 @@ the build takes some time... Yes, on complete build -- I would commit only if complete build is OK. --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:09:30 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Martin Rubey -Cc: list Subject: ChangeLog on Silver Martin, @@ -15391,19 +12530,11 @@ all to even attempt democracy. You want the authority but you don't live up to the responsibility. -Tim - - - - - \start +Date: 11 Aug 2007 19:41:20 -0500 To: Tim Daly -Subject: Re: ChangeLog on Silver From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 11 Aug 2007 19:41:20 -0500 -Cc: list - +Subject: Re: ChangeLog on Silver If you read my suggestions/amendments to Martin's proposal, you'll see I suggested: @@ -15446,18 +12577,11 @@ see I suggested: I suggested to keep the number of College members small. I suggested 7 for concreteness. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 11 Aug 2007 19:47:48 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - <200708112353.l7BNrATa023414@matrix.start.ca> - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 11 Aug 2007 19:47:48 -0500 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -15496,19 +12620,11 @@ point. Looking at the call to expt(x,n) in the Spad code I don't immediatelt see why it should be well-formed. Do you see why it is OK? --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 11 Aug 2007 20:54:17 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - <200708112353.l7BNrATa023414@matrix.start.ca> - - <87y7gh1suj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 11 Aug 2007 20:54:17 -0400 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > Your suggestion is correct, but the build still fails at the same @@ -15540,24 +12656,12 @@ Here, % certainly satisfies the conditions on the parameter type: Myself, I do not see how this could not be well-formed. What do you see wrong with the expression? - -Steve - - - - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:56:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis -To: gcl-devel@gnu.org -Cc: list +To: list Subject: common-lisp and GCL-2.6.8pre *features* - -Camm -- - Using GCL-2.6.8pre (CVS) included in Axiom distribution, I'm seeing a curious interaction between *features* and :common-lisp. Below is a session to reproduce the problem: @@ -15587,25 +12691,13 @@ Fast links are on: do (si::use-fast-links nil) for debugging Error signalled by EVAL. Broken at EVAL. Type :H for Help. - - - I would have expected the system NOT to try to evaluate foo. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 20:00:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - <200708112353.l7BNrATa023414@matrix.start.ca> - - <87y7gh1suj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <878x8hr2rq.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -15646,21 +12738,11 @@ I don't think it does, in the sense of Spad. I believe two unnamed categories define distinct categories irrespective of their bodies. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 11 Aug 2007 21:21:11 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - <200708112353.l7BNrATa023414@matrix.start.ca> - - <87y7gh1suj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <878x8hr2rq.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 11 Aug 2007 21:21:11 -0400 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > | Here, % certainly satisfies the conditions on the parameter type: @@ -15682,18 +12764,11 @@ part. Of course that is just my interpretation -- I do not recall reading a rule that either confirms nor refutes it. I do not yet see a difficulty with that point of view. - -Steve - - - - \start +Date: 11 Aug 2007 21:23:27 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: common-lisp and GCL-2.6.8pre *features* -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 11 Aug 2007 21:23:27 -0400 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > >(member :common-lisp *features*) @@ -15726,23 +12801,11 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: In other words, "#-:common-lisp foo" means "evaluate foo iff :common-lisp is not on *features*". -Steve - - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 20:27:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - <200708112353.l7BNrATa023414@matrix.start.ca> - - <87y7gh1suj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <878x8hr2rq.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <873aypr1iw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -15768,17 +12831,11 @@ is unnamed. I'm trying to find where I found that in the Axiom book, but no luck for the moment. Except the discussion in section 12.12 on Anonymous Categories. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 11 Aug 2007 20:42:12 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: common-lisp and GCL-2.6.8pre *features* - <87zm0xpmuo.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 11 Aug 2007 20:42:12 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Stephen Wilson writes: @@ -15815,22 +12872,11 @@ Stephen Wilson writes: So, do you agree there is a bug in GCL here? --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 11 Aug 2007 20:43:36 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - <200708112353.l7BNrATa023414@matrix.start.ca> - - <87y7gh1suj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <878x8hr2rq.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <873aypr1iw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 11 Aug 2007 20:43:36 -0500 -Cc: list Stephen Wilson writes: @@ -15844,23 +12890,11 @@ Stephen Wilson writes: OK, I got the reference I was looking for: See on the discussion in the Axiom book on Correctness, section 12.8. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 11 Aug 2007 21:42:16 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - <200708112353.l7BNrATa023414@matrix.start.ca> - - <87y7gh1suj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <878x8hr2rq.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <873aypr1iw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 11 Aug 2007 21:42:16 -0400 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -15905,20 +12939,11 @@ As I said, I do not recall reading anything explicit on this point, but I would be grateful if you can pull up a reference. I might take a look in the Aldor user guide and see if there is mention there. - -Steve - - - - \start +Date: 11 Aug 2007 21:45:40 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: common-lisp and GCL-2.6.8pre *features* - <87zm0xpmuo.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87veblzfyj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 11 Aug 2007 21:45:40 -0400 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -15968,26 +12993,11 @@ Thus, is asking GCL to evaluate 'foo in this case. - -Steve - - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 20:51:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - <200708112353.l7BNrATa023414@matrix.start.ca> - - <87y7gh1suj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <878x8hr2rq.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <873aypr1iw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87veblplzb.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -16047,19 +13057,11 @@ want to test for the signature I don't know how to write that in Spad -- Ralf? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 20:55:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: common-lisp and GCL-2.6.8pre *features* - <87zm0xpmuo.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87veblzfyj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87r6m9pltn.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -16112,21 +13114,11 @@ Hey, you said in the previous message I tested that :common-lisp is NOT on *features*. What am I missing? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 20:56:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson -Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] Re: common-lisp and GCL-2.6.8pre - *features* - <87zm0xpmuo.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87veblzfyj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87r6m9pltn.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] Re: common-lisp and GCL-2.6.8pre *features* On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -16145,25 +13137,11 @@ On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: I see what I'm missing. Sorry for the noise. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 11 Aug 2007 22:53:04 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - <200708112353.l7BNrATa023414@matrix.start.ca> - - <87y7gh1suj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <878x8hr2rq.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <873aypr1iw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87veblplzb.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 11 Aug 2007 22:53:04 -0400 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: [...] @@ -16270,28 +13248,12 @@ mentioning. Even if such expressions are not visible to the programmer, it _might_ be a decent model for the compiler to use internally. - -Steve - - - - \start +Date: 11 Aug 2007 22:55:59 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - <200708112353.l7BNrATa023414@matrix.start.ca> - - <87y7gh1suj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <878x8hr2rq.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <873aypr1iw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87veblplzb.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87lkchpipb.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 11 Aug 2007 22:55:59 -0400 -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Stephen Wilson writes: > In other words, an anonymous category can capture both a nominal @@ -16301,27 +13263,11 @@ Stephen Wilson writes: Sorry. That should be `the rhs exports'. - -Steve - - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 22:58:01 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - <200708112353.l7BNrATa023414@matrix.start.ca> - - <87y7gh1suj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <878x8hr2rq.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <873aypr1iw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87veblplzb.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - -Cc: list On 8/11/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -16424,26 +13370,11 @@ it here: http://www.ph.ed.ac.uk/~bj/paraldor/WWW/docs/documentation/axlugII.pdf -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 23:02:22 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - - <87y7gh1suj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <878x8hr2rq.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <873aypr1iw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87veblplzb.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - -Cc: list Correction: @@ -16460,29 +13391,11 @@ I meant to write: This does *not* apply to anonymous categories. -> ... - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:11:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - <200708112353.l7BNrATa023414@matrix.start.ca> - - <87y7gh1suj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <878x8hr2rq.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <873aypr1iw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87veblplzb.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - -Cc: list On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -16631,28 +13544,11 @@ Yes, I do. | | http://www.ph.ed.ac.uk/~bj/paraldor/WWW/docs/documentation/axlugII.pdf -Thanks. - --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:45:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - <200708112353.l7BNrATa023414@matrix.start.ca> - - <87y7gh1suj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <878x8hr2rq.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <873aypr1iw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87veblplzb.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87lkchpipb.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -Cc: list On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: @@ -16668,26 +13564,11 @@ On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: Do you see code in the compiler that supports that? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:47:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - - <87y7gh1suj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <878x8hr2rq.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <873aypr1iw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87veblplzb.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - - -Cc: list On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -16710,18 +13591,10 @@ Yes, but they gave no indication that they do structural matching. They gave examples and explanations of why they don't do it -- even partially. So, the semantics is still mystery... --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Tim Daly, Gabriel Dos Reis, - Juergen Weiss, - Bill Page, - axiom-devel -From: Martin Rubey Date: 12 Aug 2007 09:40:29 +0200 -Cc: +From: Martin Rubey +To: Tim Daly, Gabriel Dos Reis, Juergen Weiss, Bill Page Subject: Re: ChangeLog on Silver Tim, Gaby, * @@ -16805,26 +13678,11 @@ there are not so many developers - are there more than ten? Maybe you could add this to MathAction, maybe to the same page I set up. Do you think the two models are fundamentally incompatible? -Martin - - - - \start +Date: 12 Aug 2007 09:55:02 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - <200708112353.l7BNrATa023414@matrix.start.ca> - - <87y7gh1suj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <878x8hr2rq.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <873aypr1iw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87veblplzb.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 12 Aug 2007 09:55:02 +0200 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -16859,24 +13717,11 @@ should. Warning: I didn't check whether this is what you want to fix your bug. - -Martin - - - - \start -Subject: RE: A curious algebra failure Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 12:11:42 +0200 -Thread-Topic: A curious algebra failure -Thread-Index: AcfcaX8+0tSS+hzKRPWEKB7AM1x8ZwAVOl4g +To: Gabriel Dos Reis From: Juergen Weiss -To: Gabriel Dos Reis, - - FILETIME=[2F6E1830:01C7DCC9] -Cc: - -Hi, +Subject: RE: A curious algebra failure The file patches.lisp in the scratchpad sources from 1990 contained the following line: @@ -16887,12 +13732,12 @@ eol to override the definition in c-util.boot. Seems that pmatchWithSl returns nil when a match -is not possible, empty assoc list !=3D nil when no substitutions are +is not possible, empty assoc list != nil when no substitutions are necessary -for a match and an assoc list with substitutions otherwise.=20 +for a match and an assoc list with substitutions otherwise. For example - v:=3D ASSOC(p,al) =3D> s=3Drest v or al + v:= ASSOC(p,al) => s=rest v or al returns 't if (p,s) is in al. So this function can never typecheck in ansi common lisp. The @@ -16901,11 +13746,11 @@ atomic properties and associations as well. By the way, I think the line must read - v:=3D ASSOC(p,al) =3D> s=3Drest v and al - =3D=3D=3D=3D + v:= ASSOC(p,al) => s=rest v and al + ==== -this makes much more sense logically and should typecheck with=20 -the pmatch(s,p) =3D=3D pmatchWithSl(s,p,[nil]) +this makes much more sense logically and should typecheck with +the pmatch(s,p) == pmatchWithSl(s,p,[nil]) Regards @@ -16915,78 +13760,78 @@ Juergen Weiss Juergen Weiss | Universitaet Mainz, Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung, Juergen Weiss| 55099 Mainz, Tel: +49(6131)39-26361, FAX: +49(6131)39-26407 -=20 + > -----Original Message----- -> From: axiom-developer-bounces+weiss=3Duni-mainz.de@nongnu.org=20 +> From: axiom-developer-bounces+weiss=uni-mainz.de@nongnu.org > On Behalf Of Gabriel Dos Reis > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 12:52 AM > To: list > Subject: A curious algebra failure ->=20 ->=20 +> +> > Hi, ->=20 +> > This issue pops up while looking at a type error in -> src/interp/c-util.boot.=20 ->=20 +> src/interp/c-util.boot. +> > 1. The type error ->=20 +> > Consider the function pmatch() from c-util.boot ->=20 -> pmatch(s,p) =3D=3D pmatchWithSl(s,p,"ok") ->=20 +> +> pmatch(s,p) == pmatchWithSl(s,p,"ok") +> > That function is essentially called by the compiler to check > whether an expression e in mode m is coercible to mode m', as > can be seen from coerceable() defined in compile.boot ->=20 -> coerceable(m,m',e) =3D=3D -> m=3Dm' =3D> m +> +> coerceable(m,m',e) == +> m=m' => m > -- must find any free parameters in m -> sl:=3D pmatch(m',m) =3D> SUBLIS(sl,m') -> coerce(["$fromCoerceable$",m,e],m') =3D> m' +> sl:= pmatch(m',m) => SUBLIS(sl,m') +> coerce(["$fromCoerceable$",m,e],m') => m' > nil ->=20 +> > Basically, the expression e of mode m is coercible to mode m' if > (a) m and m' are identical -- the identity conversion; -> =20 +> > (b) m and m' can be unified by instantiating variables in m -> -- instantiatiion conversion, the case handled=20 +> -- instantiatiion conversion, the case handled > by pmatch; ->=20 +> > (c) or by attempting the actual conversion and see what > happens -- the "speculative" call to coerce(); -> =20 +> > (d) and that is all. -> =20 ->=20 ->=20 +> +> +> > So far, so good. ->=20 -> Now, let's look at the definition of pmatchWithSl() in=20 +> +> Now, let's look at the definition of pmatchWithSl() in > c-util.boot: ->=20 -> pmatchWithSl(s,p,al) =3D=3D -> s=3D$EmptyMode =3D> nil -> s=3Dp =3D> al -> v:=3D ASSOC(p,al) =3D> s=3Drest v or al -> MEMQ(p,$PatternVariableList) =3D> [[p,:s],:al] +> +> pmatchWithSl(s,p,al) == +> s=$EmptyMode => nil +> s=p => al +> v:= ASSOC(p,al) => s=rest v or al +> MEMQ(p,$PatternVariableList) => [[p,:s],:al] > null atom p and null atom s and_ -> (al':=3D pmatchWithSl(first s,first p,al)) and +> (al':= pmatchWithSl(first s,first p,al)) and > pmatchWithSl(rest s,rest p,al') ->=20 +> > Essentially, pmatchWithSl() computes a substitution that would > make the pattern p match the value s. It uses a simply minded > unification algorithm, and is probably not efficient but that > is not of concern here. ->=20 +> > A simple type inference shows that the third argument to -> pmatchWithSl() must be an association list. Therefore, the=20 +> pmatchWithSl() must be an association list. Therefore, the > current definition of pmatch() is ill-formed. ->=20 ->=20 +> +> > 2. The correct definition of pmatch ->=20 +> > Now that we have established that the existing definition of > pmatch is incorrect, what should a correct definition look > like? Well, the whole thing pmatch() computes is a `minimal' @@ -16994,53 +13839,53 @@ Juergen Weiss| 55099 Mainz, Tel: +49(6131)39-26361, FAX: > the identity substituation (or null substitution) and updates > it as it goes through the unification process. So the correct > definition is: ->=20 -> pmatch(s,p) =3D=3D pmatchWithSl(s,p,[nil]) ->=20 +> +> pmatch(s,p) == pmatchWithSl(s,p,[nil]) +> > where [nil] stands for the identity substitution. ->=20 ->=20 +> +> > 3. The problem in Algebra bootstrap ->=20 +> > After correction of pmatch(), I started a fresh build with > maximum safety turn on. Everything proceeded well till > compilation of MONAD.spad where I see a failure with the > following message: ->=20 +> > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- -> initializing NRLIB MONAD- for Monad&=20 -> compiling into NRLIB MONAD-=20 +> initializing NRLIB MONAD- for Monad& +> compiling into NRLIB MONAD- > importing RepeatedSquaring S > compiling exported ** : (S,PositiveInteger) -> S > ****** comp fails at level 1 with expression: ****** -> error in function **=20 ->=20 +> error in function ** +> > (S) > ****** level 1 ****** -> $x:=3D S -> $m:=3D (Join (SetCategory) (CATEGORY domain (SIGNATURE * ($ $ $)))) -> $f:=3D +> $x:= S +> $m:= (Join (SetCategory) (CATEGORY domain (SIGNATURE * ($ $ $)))) +> $f:= > ((((|n| # #) (|x| # #) (* # # #) (** # # #) ...))) -> =20 +> > >> Apparent user error: -> Cannot coerce S=20 -> of mode (Monad)=20 -> to mode (Join (SetCategory) (CATEGORY domain (SIGNATURE=20 -> * ($ $ $))))=20 ->=20 ->=20 ->=20 ->=20 +> Cannot coerce S +> of mode (Monad) +> to mode (Join (SetCategory) (CATEGORY domain (SIGNATURE +> * ($ $ $)))) +> +> +> +> > Looking at the definition of MONAD, reproduced below, I see no > reason to expect that the call to expt(x,n) should work. What > am I missing? ->=20 ->=20 +> +> > Thanks, ->=20 +> > -- Gaby ->=20 +> > )abbrev category MONAD Monad > ++ Authors: J. Grabmeier, R. Wisbauer > ++ Date Created: 01 March 1991 @@ -17056,60 +13901,46 @@ Juergen Weiss| 55099 Mainz, Tel: +49(6131)39-26361, FAX: > ++ Description: > ++ Monad is the class of all multiplicative monads, i.e. sets > ++ with a binary operation. -> Monad(): Category =3D=3D SetCategory with +> Monad(): Category == SetCategory with > --operations > "*": (%,%) -> % > ++ a*b is the product of \spad{a} and b in a set with > ++ a binary operation. > rightPower: (%,PositiveInteger) -> % -> ++ rightPower(a,n) returns the \spad{n}-th right=20 +> ++ rightPower(a,n) returns the \spad{n}-th right > power of \spad{a}, -> ++ i.e. \spad{rightPower(a,n) :=3D rightPower(a,n-1) * a} and -> ++ \spad{rightPower(a,1) :=3D a}. +> ++ i.e. \spad{rightPower(a,n) := rightPower(a,n-1) * a} and +> ++ \spad{rightPower(a,1) := a}. > leftPower: (%,PositiveInteger) -> % -> ++ leftPower(a,n) returns the \spad{n}-th left power=20 +> ++ leftPower(a,n) returns the \spad{n}-th left power > of \spad{a}, -> ++ i.e. \spad{leftPower(a,n) :=3D a * leftPower(a,n-1)} and -> ++ \spad{leftPower(a,1) :=3D a}. +> ++ i.e. \spad{leftPower(a,n) := a * leftPower(a,n-1)} and +> ++ \spad{leftPower(a,1) := a}. > "**": (%,PositiveInteger) -> % > ++ a**n returns the \spad{n}-th power of \spad{a}, > ++ defined by repeated squaring. > add > import RepeatedSquaring(%) -> x:% ** n:PositiveInteger =3D=3D expt(x,n) -> rightPower(a,n) =3D=3D -> -- one? n =3D> a -> (n =3D 1) =3D> a -> res :=3D a -> for i in 1..(n-1) repeat res :=3D res * a +> x:% ** n:PositiveInteger == expt(x,n) +> rightPower(a,n) == +> -- one? n => a +> (n = 1) => a +> res := a +> for i in 1..(n-1) repeat res := res * a > res -> leftPower(a,n) =3D=3D -> -- one? n =3D> a -> (n =3D 1) =3D> a -> res :=3D a -> for i in 1..(n-1) repeat res :=3D a * res +> leftPower(a,n) == +> -- one? n => a +> (n = 1) => a +> res := a +> for i in 1..(n-1) repeat res := a * res > res ->=20 ->=20 ->=20 -> -- Gaby ->=20 ->=20 -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer ->=20 - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 08:16:56 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Juergen Weiss Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - <4A2AB4CC01998D46807D8032B06CDBDA02F91533@EXCHANGE01.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On 8/12/07, Weiss, Juergen wrote: > @@ -17129,28 +13960,12 @@ since it negates most advantages of source code control and makes the actual function of significant parts of the code more obscure. > Seems that pmatchWithSl returns nil when a match -> ... - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 09:17:18 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - <87y7gh1suj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <878x8hr2rq.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <873aypr1iw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87veblplzb.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - - -Cc: list On 8/12/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -17210,19 +14025,12 @@ See http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxCategories -Regards, -Bill Page - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 08:26:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey - <9qbqdd19qq.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: Bill Page, - axiom-devel Subject: Re: ChangeLog on Silver +Cc: Bill Page On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -17291,18 +14099,12 @@ When I received your original proposal, I replied to MathAction with the suggested amendment. For some reasons, it does not show up. Bill do you know why? --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 12 Aug 2007 08:37:53 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: ChangeLog on Silver - <9qbqdd19qq.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 12 Aug 2007 08:37:53 -0500 -Cc: Bill Page, - axiom-devel +Cc: Bill Page Martin Rubey writes: @@ -17312,26 +14114,11 @@ Martin Rubey writes: No, you did not. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 08:33:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - <87y7gh1suj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <878x8hr2rq.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <873aypr1iw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87veblplzb.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - - - -Cc: list On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -17387,26 +14174,11 @@ How does the compiler behave when the error we are discussing is fixed? I'm trying Juergen's suggested fix, which has different semantics than that of Stephen. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 12 Aug 2007 08:40:16 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - <200708112353.l7BNrATa023414@matrix.start.ca> - - <87y7gh1suj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <878x8hr2rq.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <873aypr1iw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87veblplzb.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <9qr6m9uqzt.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 12 Aug 2007 08:40:16 -0500 -Cc: list Martin Rubey writes: @@ -17445,20 +14217,12 @@ Martin Rubey writes: That might help. Let me test Jurgen's fix, first. - --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 09:37:22 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis - <9qbqdd19qq.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - -Cc: axiom-devel , - Bill Page Subject: Re: ChangeLog on Silver +Cc: Bill Page On 8/12/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -17483,21 +14247,12 @@ If you are having trouble with this let me know, but if all else fails you could always yous the browser interface rather than an email reply. :-) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 08:40:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page - <9qbqdd19qq.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - -Cc: axiom-devel , - Bill Page Subject: Re: ChangeLog on Silver +Cc: Bill Page On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -17531,17 +14286,11 @@ to check which address is accepted, which is rejected? Tim and I, despite our differences, share a lot of traits regarding emails and Emacs :-) --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 12 Aug 2007 08:40:32 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Juergen Weiss Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - <4A2AB4CC01998D46807D8032B06CDBDA02F91533@EXCHANGE01.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 12 Aug 2007 08:40:32 -0500 -Cc: list Juergen Weiss writes: @@ -17585,18 +14334,11 @@ Indeed. Yes, it typechecks; I just started a new build; I will report back. I like your semantics description and suggested fix better. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 08:42:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - <4A2AB4CC01998D46807D8032B06CDBDA02F91533@EXCHANGE01.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> - -Cc: list On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -17617,15 +14359,10 @@ On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: I fully agree with that. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 09:44:38 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: Wiki On 8/12/07, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -17657,22 +14394,12 @@ Axiom wiki site but I have not done any work on that yet. What is your timetable for the change? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 09:48:40 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis - <9qbqdd19qq.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - - -Cc: axiom-devel , - Bill Page Subject: Re: ChangeLog on Silver +Cc: Bill Page On 8/12/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > ... @@ -17694,23 +14421,12 @@ The email address that you used to subscribe to the Axiom Wiki is: I can change it if you wish. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 08:51:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page - <9qbqdd19qq.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - - - -Cc: axiom-devel , - Bill Page Subject: Re: ChangeLog on Silver +Cc: Bill Page On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -17740,39 +14456,20 @@ That address is fine. I would just like to be able to send email from my TAMU account, but not receive mathaction emails there, I suspect it is the same setting as for the axiom-developer? --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 08:55:56 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: Wiki -Bill, - There is no hurry. Take the time you need. -Tim - - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 09:57:26 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis - <9qbqdd19qq.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - - - - -Cc: axiom-devel , - Bill Page Subject: Re: ChangeLog on Silver +Cc: Bill Page On 8/12/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -17798,19 +14495,11 @@ receive email notices - but I doubt it. Maybe you can live with the duplication of emails and just subscribe twice? (Normally the volume of email is quite low.) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start +Date: 12 Aug 2007 09:03:11 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Juergen Weiss Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure - <4A2AB4CC01998D46807D8032B06CDBDA02F91533@EXCHANGE01.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> - <87bqdcx44v.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 12 Aug 2007 09:03:11 -0500 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -17830,24 +14519,12 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: It also fails. But, I believe your suggested fix is the most correct. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 09:00:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page - <9qbqdd19qq.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - - - - - -Cc: axiom-devel , - Bill Page Subject: Re: ChangeLog on Silver +Cc: Bill Page On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -17884,15 +14561,10 @@ of mailing list traffic there. Many thanks for your help; I'll figure out what I can do. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 01:26:19 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot On 08/10/2007 06:13 PM, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -17969,17 +14641,10 @@ program is to read the source code. Let's hope they are fluent in LISP. Yes, go for it. But don't oppose to people who don't want to read lengthy LISP code with or without documentation. -Ralf - - - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:49:34 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot On 08/10/2007 05:17 PM, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -18014,19 +14679,11 @@ The question is whether it should be replaced by LISP or SPAD. Happy fighting. ;-) -Ralf - - - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 11:29:09 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: bootstrap Meta/Boot - <46BE3CFE.6000604@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list On 8/11/07, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > On 08/10/2007 05:17 PM, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -18073,18 +14730,11 @@ developers on this list, this was exactly the goal of the original ScratchPad developers. Apparently Aldor was just another (big) step in this direction. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 08:50:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: re: bootstrap Meta/Boot To: Bill Page, Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list - +Subject: re: bootstrap Meta/Boot --- Bill Page wrote: @@ -18113,22 +14763,11 @@ crowd being swayed away from their course. If we are moving in different directions, why are we wasting time trying to drag along people who want to go in the other direction? -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. -http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ - - - \start +Date: 12 Aug 2007 11:11:13 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: bootstrap Meta/Boot -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 12 Aug 2007 11:11:13 -0500 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -18138,20 +14777,11 @@ Cliff Yapp writes: No. In fact, this has become a moot point as of today. --- Gaby - - - \start -Subject: RE: A curious algebra failure Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 18:38:27 +0200 -Thread-Topic: A curious algebra failure -Thread-Index: Acfc6Lw/MA9LYOhSSHOWJsaih8mIoQAFMeIg - <87zm0wetpc.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> From: Juergen Weiss To: Gabriel Dos Reis - FILETIME=[3632F970:01C7DCFF] -Cc: list +Subject: RE: A curious algebra failure I just compiled some algebra (INTALG.spad) with tracing for pmatch and pmatchWithSl. I do not know if this file @@ -18159,7 +14789,7 @@ is exemplary - but I never got any non nil return values with the old and the new version of the functions. So any change to those functions will have only a small -effect at all.=20 +effect at all. I know that I have a document describing type equivalence for Scratchpad II. Problem is I cannot find it. :-(. @@ -18171,46 +14801,38 @@ Juergen Weiss Juergen Weiss | Universitaet Mainz, Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung, Juergen Weiss| 55099 Mainz, Tel: +49(6131)39-26361, FAX: +49(6131)39-26407 -=20 + > -----Original Message----- -> From: Gabriel Dos Reis [mailto:Gabriel Dos Reis]=20 +> From: Gabriel Dos Reis [mailto:Gabriel Dos Reis] > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 4:03 PM > To: Weiss, Juergen > Cc: list > Subject: Re: A curious algebra failure ->=20 +> > Gabriel Dos Reis writes: ->=20 +> > [...] ->=20 +> > | | By the way, I think the line must read -> | |=20 -> | | v:=3D ASSOC(p,al) =3D> s=3Drest v and al -> | | =3D=3D=3D=3D -> | |=20 -> | | this makes much more sense logically and should typecheck with=20 -> | | the pmatch(s,p) =3D=3D pmatchWithSl(s,p,[nil]) -> |=20 -> |=20 +> | | +> | | v:= ASSOC(p,al) => s=rest v and al +> | | ==== +> | | +> | | this makes much more sense logically and should typecheck with +> | | the pmatch(s,p) == pmatchWithSl(s,p,[nil]) +> | +> | > | Yes, it typechecks; I just started a new build; I will report back. > | I like your semantics description and suggested fix better. ->=20 +> > It also fails. But, I believe your suggested fix is the most correct. ->=20 -> -- Gaby ->=20 - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 11:41:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Juergen Weiss Subject: RE: A curious algebra failure - <87zm0wetpc.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <4A2AB4CC01998D46807D8032B06CDBDA02F91534@EXCHANGE01.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> -Cc: list On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Weiss, Juergen wrote: @@ -18231,17 +14853,11 @@ I'll try to look for the break somewhere else. I'm highly interested in that paper when you find it :-) --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 11:31:48 -0700 From: Ed Borasky - rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070807 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 To: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: bootstrap Meta/Boot -Cc: list C Y wrote: > --- Ed Borasky wrote: @@ -18306,24 +14922,12 @@ calculators these days seems to be for students to study for and use in the SAT exams, not working mathematicians or engineers. Us folks are assumed to have (or be able to build) better tools. :) - - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 12:46:14 -0700 From: Ed Borasky - rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070807 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 To: list - - <87k5s0etfj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - - - - <85e81ba30708120917l684939f4o395f53cc85c9e748@mail.gmail.com> +Subject: A plea for sanity, forks, Sage, Axiom, Fricas, Open-Axiom, Changelogs, etc. Cc: William Stein, Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: A plea for sanity, forks, Sage, Axiom, Fricas, - Open-Axiom, Changelogs, etc. First of all, I'm "just a user" -- a working programmer/applied mathematician (45 years and counting.) I've been doing this since @@ -18445,20 +15049,12 @@ whether the torch is being passed to shed light or to burn down a village. And with that, I'm off to pursue another one of my dreams -- being gainfully employed in scientific computing for 50 years. :) - - - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:51:21 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Ed Borasky -Cc: list Subject: silver edition plot failure -Ed, - > (Silver Edition, downloaded with "git" last night, successfully > compiled, but crashed trying to do a plot): @@ -18470,19 +15066,11 @@ they both work before I do a commit. I have the last 5 branch builds available here and all the tests I run work. Clearly I'm missing something. Sorry about that. -Tim - - - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 14:03:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp +To: Ed Borasky Subject: re: bootstrap Meta/Boot -To: "M. Edward \(Ed\) Borasky" Ed Borasky -Cc: list - --- Ed Borasky wrote: @@ -18562,34 +15150,12 @@ folks see to be reluctant to give up their HP calculators ;-). I wonder why someone doesn't re-create the HP-48 - that seems to be a sweet spot in calculator history. -Cheers, and thanks! -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. -http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 17:51:11 -0400 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) To: Bill Page -Message-id: <46BF80CF.E51CD0A@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 - <87y7gh1suj.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <878x8hr2rq.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <873aypr1iw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87veblplzb.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - - - -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Bill Page and I have a discussion on "has" and "with" on @@ -18597,17 +15163,10 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxCategories but the changes/emails seem not to have been sent out yet. -William - - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 14:58:14 -0700 From: Ed Borasky - rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070807 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: silver edition plot failure Tim Daly wrote: @@ -18623,11 +15182,6 @@ Tim Daly wrote: > they both work before I do a commit. I have the last 5 branch builds > available here and all the tests I run work. Clearly I'm missing > something. Sorry about that. -> -> Tim -> -> -> What I did was: @@ -18670,23 +15224,12 @@ and a few other things. To do it right, you need a very-high-level mathematical language like Axiom, and you need "literate programming" or "reproducible research" for the documentation. - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 18:00:40 -0400 From: Bill Page To: William Sit Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - - <873aypr1iw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87veblplzb.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - - - - <46BF80CF.E51CD0A@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On 8/12/07, William Sit wrote: > Bill Page and I have a discussion on "has" and "with" on @@ -18708,27 +15251,11 @@ If you prefer, now that we have this page nearly finished we could rename it to remove the SandBox prefix, then all subscribers would be notified of any further changes. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 17:02:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - - <873aypr1iw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87veblplzb.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - - - - <46BF80CF.E51CD0A@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - -Cc: list On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -18738,25 +15265,11 @@ On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: That would be great! --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 18:10:55 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - - <87veblplzb.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - - - - <46BF80CF.E51CD0A@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - - -Cc: list On 8/12/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -18772,27 +15285,11 @@ Ok, now please refer to the page: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AnonymousCategories -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 17:16:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - - <87veblplzb.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - - - - <46BF80CF.E51CD0A@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - - - -Cc: list On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -18810,20 +15307,11 @@ On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: | | http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AnonymousCategories -Many thanks. - --- Gaby - - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:23:36 -0700 From: Ed Borasky - rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070807 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 To: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: bootstrap Meta/Boot -Cc: list C Y wrote: >> Incidentally, I "do" have Dick Pountain's "Object-Oriented Forth", @@ -18886,24 +15374,11 @@ stretch factor grows as utilization increases. Hopefully this won't be on the SAT if students use a TI calculator. ;) - - \start -Subject: RE: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 00:35:46 +0200 -Thread-Topic: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) -Thread-Index: AcfdLmZG4klYnLbjTNKBw5spkW7JawAALrcg - <87veblplzb.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - - - <46BF80CF.E51CD0A@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - From: Juergen Weiss -To: Gabriel Dos Reis, - Bill Page - FILETIME=[209489D0:01C7DD31] -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis, Bill Page +Subject: RE: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) I found the old document about type equivalence in Scratchpad. It's: A New Algebra System, May, 29 th 1984, James H Davenport. I have only @@ -18916,11 +15391,11 @@ It states that: So following 1. -t1 =3D=3D List Term -t2 =3D=3D List Term +t1 == List Term +t2 == List Term x : t1 y : t2 -y :=3D x =20 +y := x is not supposed to work, @@ -18928,16 +15403,16 @@ but following 2. x : List Term y : List Term -y :=3D x =20 +y := x is ok, and following 3. -t =3D=3D List Term +t == List Term x : List Term y : t -y :=3D x =20 +y := x is not supposed to work as well @@ -18954,57 +15429,41 @@ Juergen Weiss Juergen Weiss | Universitaet Mainz, Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung, Juergen Weiss| 55099 Mainz, Tel: +49(6131)39-26361, FAX: +49(6131)39-26407 -=20 + > -----Original Message----- -> From: axiom-developer-bounces+weiss=3Duni-mainz.de@nongnu.org=20 +> From: axiom-developer-bounces+weiss=uni-mainz.de@nongnu.org > On Behalf Of Gabriel Dos Reis > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 12:16 AM > To: Bill Page > Cc: list -> Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious=20 +> Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious > algebra failure) ->=20 +> > On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: ->=20 +> > | On 8/12/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > | > On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: > | > -> | > | If you prefer, now that we have this page nearly=20 +> | > | If you prefer, now that we have this page nearly > finished we could -> | > | rename it to remove the SandBox prefix, then all=20 +> | > | rename it to remove the SandBox prefix, then all > subscribers would be > | > | notified of any further changes. > | > > | > That would be great! > | > -> |=20 +> | > | Ok, now please refer to the page: -> |=20 +> | > | http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AnonymousCategories ->=20 -> Many thanks. ->=20 -> -- Gaby ->=20 ->=20 ->=20 -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer ->=20 - - \start +Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 18:56:51 -0400 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) To: Bill Page,William Sit -Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 18:56:51 -0400 -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis - -Bill: +Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Ah, of course (SandBox), stupid me! Thanks for "upgrading" the page. @@ -19024,21 +15483,11 @@ On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 18:00:40 -0400 >"SandBox..." >prefix by default. - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 18:13:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Juergen Weiss Subject: RE: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - <87veblplzb.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - - - <46BF80CF.E51CD0A@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - - <4A2AB4CC01998D46807D8032B06CDBDA02F91535@EXCHANGE01.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> -Cc: list On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, Weiss, Juergen wrote: @@ -19090,17 +15539,12 @@ I understand the above is about "type equivalence"; how about matching? That is, which way do you think the checking of the code in Monad should go according to that paper? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:18:36 -0400 From: Bill Page To: William Sit Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On 8/12/07, William Sit wrote: > @@ -19127,26 +15571,12 @@ misleading and are not identified as such. Thanks for your work on this! -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:43:51 -0400 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) To: Juergen Weiss -Message-id: <46BF9B37.802420D6@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 - <87veblplzb.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - - - <46BF80CF.E51CD0A@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - - <4A2AB4CC01998D46807D8032B06CDBDA02F91535@EXCHANGE01.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis The question is not so much whether the rules are followed as to *when* a type (domain and category, perhaps even package) becomes named. Note that @@ -19243,35 +15673,13 @@ William > I am not sure how much of this design is preserved in the current > system. But without having had an intense look at the examples, > I got the impression, that they follow the rules above. -> -> Regards -> -> Juergen Weiss -> -> Juergen Weiss | Universitaet Mainz, Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung, -> Juergen Weiss| 55099 Mainz, Tel: +49(6131)39-26361, FAX: -> +49(6131)39-26407 -> -> - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 20:26:05 -0400 From: Bill Page To: William Sit Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - - - <46BF80CF.E51CD0A@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - - - - - <4A2AB4CC01998D46807D8032B06CDBDA02F91535@EXCHANGE01.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> - <46BF9B37.802420D6@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On 8/12/07, William Sit wrote: > The question is not so much whether the rules are followed as to *when* a @@ -19302,27 +15710,11 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxCategories I think this demonstrate that Davenport's rules are implemented in Spad. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:28:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - - - <46BF80CF.E51CD0A@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - - - - - <4A2AB4CC01998D46807D8032B06CDBDA02F91535@EXCHANGE01.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> - <46BF9B37.802420D6@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - -Cc: list On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -19358,25 +15750,11 @@ On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: So, how do you think the original example (Monad using expt$RepeatedSquare(%)) should behave according to those rules? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 20:32:04 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - <46BF80CF.E51CD0A@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - - - - - <4A2AB4CC01998D46807D8032B06CDBDA02F91535@EXCHANGE01.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> - <46BF9B37.802420D6@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - - -Cc: list On 8/12/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -19393,27 +15771,11 @@ It should be fine because of rule 2: 2. Anonymous types are equivalent when structurally equivalent -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:35:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - <46BF80CF.E51CD0A@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - - - - - <4A2AB4CC01998D46807D8032B06CDBDA02F91535@EXCHANGE01.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> - <46BF9B37.802420D6@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - - - -Cc: list On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -19443,25 +15805,11 @@ Rule 2 says: How would it apply? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 21:14:51 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - - - - <4A2AB4CC01998D46807D8032B06CDBDA02F91535@EXCHANGE01.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> - <46BF9B37.802420D6@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - - - - -Cc: list On 8/12/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -19489,27 +15837,11 @@ Why do you think: is referring to a named category? Let it refer to the category-value, not it's name. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 20:19:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - - - - <4A2AB4CC01998D46807D8032B06CDBDA02F91535@EXCHANGE01.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> - <46BF9B37.802420D6@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - - - - - -Cc: list On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -19548,16 +15880,11 @@ be of the unnamed category SetCategory with "*": (%,%) -> % --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 21:40:53 -0400 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) To: Gabriel Dos Reis,Bill Page -Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 21:40:53 -0400 -Cc: list +Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 20:19:47 -0500 (CDT) Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -19614,16 +15941,11 @@ already have seen examples that Integer has with _*:(Integer, Integer)->Integer. Here, we are not saying 'Monad is SetCategory with "*":(%,%)->%'. -William - - - \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 20:48:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: William Sit Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) -Cc: list On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, William Sit wrote: @@ -19681,17 +16003,11 @@ actual arguments with formal parameters? It seems to me that the compiler asks the question in terms of coercible, instead of "has". --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 00:50:50 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - -Cc: list Gaby, @@ -19818,19 +16134,11 @@ error message you quoted in your first email in this thread: It seems to me that the mode we should expect here is not Monad but rather it's category-value in which case the coercion is obvious. -Regards, -Bill Page - - - \start +Date: 13 Aug 2007 00:28:49 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 13 Aug 2007 00:28:49 -0500 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -19864,21 +16172,11 @@ I just wanted to say one thing: We should distinguish the notion of language does. Argument passing in function calls follows the semantics of "being coercible to the type of formal parameter". --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 02:06:33 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - - - <87d4xs3svi.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -Cc: list - -Gaby, On 13 Aug 2007 00:28:49 -0500, you wrote: > Bill Page writes: @@ -19937,27 +16235,11 @@ classifiers) for the same reason as I want records (products) and unions (co-products), because this is a step toward a more categorical semantics for the language. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 03:38:36 -0400 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Message-id: <46C00A7C.3B4A120A@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 - -Cc: list - - +Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -19976,64 +16258,60 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > > -- Gaby -I believe for category parameters, the compiler checks whether the supplied domain -"has" the category, and for domain parameters, the compiler checks whether the -object belongs to the domain, NOT whether the object is "coercible" to it. I believe -coercion is not always automatic in Spad (but is in the interpreter, even when a -domain does not explicitly have CoercibleTo the target --- see examples in -http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxCategories). -The Spad programmer has to explicitly call a coerce function (and if that does not -exist, define the domain to be CoercibleTo the target domain and define and call -coerce) before passing the object to the routine or constructor. - -Matching of actual arguments with formal parameters does not mean "is" but means -"belongs to". In this sense, if the formal parameter is a category (or a Join of -categories), the actual parameter need to be a domain in that category (or all of -the categories listed in Join); if the formal parameter is a domain, the actual -parameter need to be an object in that domain. The question of category equivalence -comes in only when the two formal arguments have the same defined structures. Then -the question of whether a domain "belongs" to the categories specified depends on -how the domain is constructed. If the formal argument is named, then the domain must -be explicitly declared to belong to that named category to be a valid argument. If -the formal argument is unnamed, or rather, has unnamed components (in the sense that -'SetCategory with ...' is 'Join(SetCategory, with ...)', where 'SetCategory' is -named, and 'with ...' is unnamed), then the unnamed category may be satisfied if the -domain structurally belongs to the unamed category (there need not be, and cannot -be, an explicit declaration, except in the sense of exported functions). - -Similarly, the question of domain equivalence comes in only when two formal -arugments have the same defined structures. Then the question of whether an object -"belongs" to the domain specified depends on whether the formal argument is named or -not. If named, the object must have been declared to be (and assigned a value from) -the said formal domain argument. If unnamed, the object must also have been declared -to be (and assigned a value from) the said formal domain argument. Actually, I am -not sure if there is such a thing as an unnamed domain. In Davenport's example, to -me, 'List Integer' is certainly a named domain from domain constructor List. Of -course, if you declare t:SetCategory == List Integer, or t:= List Integer, then you -have renamed the domain and t would not be the same domain as List Integer for the -purpose of compiling Spad. Again, see +I believe for category parameters, the compiler checks whether the +supplied domain "has" the category, and for domain parameters, the +compiler checks whether the object belongs to the domain, NOT whether +the object is "coercible" to it. I believe coercion is not always +automatic in Spad (but is in the interpreter, even when a domain does +not explicitly have CoercibleTo the target --- see examples in +http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxCategories). The Spad +programmer has to explicitly call a coerce function (and if that does +not exist, define the domain to be CoercibleTo the target domain and +define and call coerce) before passing the object to the routine or +constructor. + +Matching of actual arguments with formal parameters does not mean "is" +but means "belongs to". In this sense, if the formal parameter is a +category (or a Join of categories), the actual parameter need to be a +domain in that category (or all of the categories listed in Join); if +the formal parameter is a domain, the actual parameter need to be an +object in that domain. The question of category equivalence comes in +only when the two formal arguments have the same defined +structures. Then the question of whether a domain "belongs" to the +categories specified depends on how the domain is constructed. If the +formal argument is named, then the domain must be explicitly declared +to belong to that named category to be a valid argument. If the formal +argument is unnamed, or rather, has unnamed components (in the sense +that 'SetCategory with ...' is 'Join(SetCategory, with ...)', where +'SetCategory' is named, and 'with ...' is unnamed), then the unnamed +category may be satisfied if the domain structurally belongs to the +unamed category (there need not be, and cannot be, an explicit +declaration, except in the sense of exported functions). + +Similarly, the question of domain equivalence comes in only when two +formal arugments have the same defined structures. Then the question +of whether an object "belongs" to the domain specified depends on +whether the formal argument is named or not. If named, the object must +have been declared to be (and assigned a value from) the said formal +domain argument. If unnamed, the object must also have been declared +to be (and assigned a value from) the said formal domain +argument. Actually, I am not sure if there is such a thing as an +unnamed domain. In Davenport's example, to me, 'List Integer' is +certainly a named domain from domain constructor List. Of course, if +you declare t:SetCategory == List Integer, or t:= List Integer, then +you have renamed the domain and t would not be the same domain as List +Integer for the purpose of compiling Spad. Again, see http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxCategories for examples. -William - - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 04:15:05 -0400 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) To: Bill Page -Message-id: <46C01309.9A431617@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 - - - <87d4xs3svi.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis I think I understand the objection raised by Gaby. In matching Monad to SetCategory with ..., Axiom is applying a forgetful functor that, given a @@ -20129,43 +16407,12 @@ Bill Page wrote: > classifiers) for the same reason as I want records (products) and > unions (co-products), because this is a step toward a more categorical > semantics for the language. -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - --- -William Sit -Department of Mathematics..Email: William Sit -City College of New York................Tel: 212-650-5179 -New York, NY 10031, USA.................Fax: 212-862-0004 -Home page: .......http://scisun.sci.ccny.cuny.edu/~wyscc/ - - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:35:23 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - <87veblplzb.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - - - <46BF80CF.E51CD0A@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - -Cc: list - -Dear Bill, You have added the Aldor version of the test code to @@ -20288,19 +16535,11 @@ or anything else of the form where B is not of type Category. That seems to be different in Axiom, but I havent yet felt that this is insufficient. -Ralf - - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:39:39 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: Juergen Weiss, - axiom-dev +To: Juergen Weiss Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - <4A2AB4CC01998D46807D8032B06CDBDA02F91535@EXCHANGE01.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> -Cc: ---BEGIN aaa.as #include "aldor" @@ -20425,38 +16664,13 @@ On 08/13/2007 12:35 AM, Weiss, Juergen wrote: >> | Ok, now please refer to the page: >> | >> | http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AnonymousCategories ->> ->> Many thanks. ->> ->> -- Gaby ->> ->> ->> ->> _______________________________________________ ->> Axiom-developer mailing list ->> list ->> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer ->> -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:27:03 +1000 From: Alasdair McAndrew To: list - boundary="----=_Part_38020_26929871.1186997223304" Subject: A bug in windows Axiom -------=_Part_38020_26929871.1186997223304 - -Hi, - I'm using Axiom with some cryptography students; at this very early stage we are having fun with very simple ciphers (Vigenere, Hill, etc), so we need to transfer from a string to a list of integers. @@ -20476,27 +16690,11 @@ to find this log). Help or advice would be very welcome! FWIW, the command map(x +-> ord(x)-65,members(str)) returns [0,1,2,3] as it should. -Thanks, -Alasdair - -------=_Part_38020_26929871.1186997223304 - -Hi,

I'm using Axiom with some cryptography students; at this very early stage we are having fun with very simple ciphers (Vigenere, Hill, etc), so we need to transfer from a string to a list of integers.

-Here is how to reproduce the bug: on windows Axiom, enter the following tiny function:

str2lst(str)==map(x +-> ord(x)-65,members(str))
-
Now try to use it:

str2lst("ABCD")

Axiom will crash (apparently it creates an error log, but I don't know where to find this log).  Help or advice would be very welcome! -

FWIW, the command map(x +-> ord(x)-65,members(str)) returns [0,1,2,3] as it should.

Thanks, -
Alasdair
- -------=_Part_38020_26929871.1186997223304-- - - - \start +Date: 13 Aug 2007 11:46:35 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Alasdair McAndrew Subject: Re: A bug in windows Axiom -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 13 Aug 2007 11:46:35 +0200 -Cc: list Alasdair McAndrew writes: @@ -20528,22 +16726,12 @@ apart from that: works on windows, too? Then one of the gurus might be able to help? - -good luck, - -Martin - - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:36:53 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page - -Cc: list, aldor-l , - Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: "has" and "with" and bug +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis >>> I'm saying that the parameter S of the default package >>> Monad& -- generated for the default implementation of the @@ -20711,15 +16899,11 @@ main(): () == { main(); ---END aaa.as - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:51:08 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - -Cc: list, aldor-l > | Isn't the problem whether 'Monad has SetCategory with "*":(%,%)->%' ? @@ -20762,17 +16946,12 @@ categories. Impossible currently with Aldor. Oh, that would surprise me even in SPAD. Where should the "coerce" function come from? -Ralf - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:59:20 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > In Spad there is also the subdomain construction that is used to > define PositiveInteger and NonNegativeInteger from Integer. Subdomain @@ -20781,16 +16960,11 @@ Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis Bill, that should be on our list for the Aldor-Meeting. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:08:40 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Alasdair McAndrew Subject: Re: A bug in windows Axiom -Cc: list On 8/13/07, Alasdair McAndrew wrote: > @@ -20830,78 +17004,66 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/BuildAxiom on the wiki. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:19:46 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Franz Lehner Subject: Re: aldor stream oddities - - - - - <46BC3790.5060501@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: list On 08/11/2007 08:55 PM, Franz Lehner wrote: ->=20 ->> Now, in Axiom we should have a problem with saying that S is an=20 +> +>> Now, in Axiom we should have a problem with saying that S is an >> additive group. > That's true. All axioms are satisfied, except uniqueness of inverses an= -d=20 +d > the neutral element. What should it be? A FuzzyAbelianGroup? -Well, the problem is that we don't deal with classical mathematics, we=20 +Well, the problem is that we don't deal with classical mathematics, we deal with constructive mathematics. So let's assume that - T :=3D UnivariateTaylorSeries(Integer,x,0) + T := UnivariateTaylorSeries(Integer,x,0) -is a Ring. Then I can form F :=3D Fraction T. +is a Ring. Then I can form F := Fraction T. -Then F is a field. And I can form polynomials that take F as a=20 +Then F is a field. And I can form polynomials that take F as a coefficient domain. Now I can take several such polynomials in Axiom and = compute a Gr=F6bner basis for them. You will be surprised that this is no= -t=20 -what you would expect. Testing whether a coefficient is zero is used=20 +t +what you would expect. Testing whether a coefficient is zero is used quite a lot in Buchberger's algorithm. The algorithm is implemented in a = -generic form and works over any coefficient field. Unfortunately, the=20 -algorithm cannot tell you that it computed the wrong result since you=20 +generic form and works over any coefficient field. Unfortunately, the +algorithm cannot tell you that it computed the wrong result since you promised to give a field as input but in fact, gave something for which >> (4) -> zero?(t-t) >> (4) false >> Type: Boolean -holds. So how do you ensure correctness of results then? Would you like=20 +holds. So how do you ensure correctness of results then? Would you like to put all the burden onto the user? -We must be very careful here. And I only addressed that problem. The=20 -library should be very carefully designed. At the moment it contains a=20 +We must be very careful here. And I only addressed that problem. The +library should be very carefully designed. At the moment it contains a lot of flaws. ->> The category Ring is reserved for structures with complete equality=20 +>> The category Ring is reserved for structures with complete equality >> testing. > Is this the plan for Axiom too? -I don't know. I am not the only person who decides this. But I would=20 +I don't know. I am not the only person who decides this. But I would vote for yes. -> What will happen to ExpressionField? I recall there are undecidable=20 +> What will happen to ExpressionField? I recall there are undecidable > problems in the latter as well. All I say, is that the library must be rethought. -> Here is a proposal (in SPAD) for a recursive stream generator which=20 +> Here is a proposal (in SPAD) for a recursive stream generator which > looks at all previous elements, not just the last one. It could probabl= -y=20 -> be done with the existing generate(S->S,S), but this one looks more=20 +y +> be done with the existing generate(S->S,S), but this one looks more > natural. You should take a look at the definition of Stream in LibAldor or also at= @@ -20909,20 +17071,11 @@ You should take a look at the definition of Stream in LibAldor or also at= http://www.risc.uni-linz.ac.at/people/hemmecke/AldorCombinat/combinatse12= =2Ehtml#x58-9900012 -Ralf - - - - \start -To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebra - failure) - - <46C045AC.9080800@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 13 Aug 2007 09:33:38 -0500 -Cc: list, aldor-l +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) --=-=-= @@ -21200,16 +17353,11 @@ hx9y/DPyvXkz+Xm99rIGR5PthkWTHJFX2Z/eekEQxpOCPqmN21E7vJ1knDI5yxnnxf7jONx9LIHK 5Nn/AxEHpt/isAMA --=-=-=-- - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:55:12 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebra - failure) - <87zm0v1p31.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -Cc: list +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) > The Spad compiler tries to treat category constructors, domain > constructors, package constructors, and function calls as uniformly as @@ -21265,22 +17413,12 @@ http://portal.axiom-developer.org/refs/articles/doye-aldor-phd.pdf) If these coercion paths are always unique then I am certainly for it, but I somehow think that there is still a lot of research to be done on it. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:18:25 -0400 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: "has" and "with" and bug To: Ralf Hemmecke -Message-id: <46C07641.B8317CC1@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 - - - <46C04255.5020208@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, aldor-l , - Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: "has" and "with" and bug +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -21328,135 +17466,91 @@ So rhx is recorded as part of |catExports|? Can you check the compiled code? So MDom has rhx? T seems to me to be according to AUG. -William - - - - \start -Subject: RE: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious - algebrafailure) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:27:04 +0200 -Thread-Topic: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious - algebrafailure) -Thread-Index: Acfdufop+QXeEv1LS3y0yyKSRZ8+UwABCoAg - <46C070D0.2040309@hemmecke.de> From: Juergen Weiss -To: Ralf Hemmecke, - Gabriel Dos Reis - FILETIME=[677E3E80:01C7DDBE] -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebrafailure) I don't think that the compiler automatically applies the coerce functions. Haven't checked to substantiate that claim though. -Regards - -Juergen Weiss - -Juergen Weiss | Universitaet Mainz, Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung, -Juergen Weiss| 55099 Mainz, Tel: +49(6131)39-26361, FAX: -+49(6131)39-26407 -=20 - > -----Original Message----- -> From: axiom-developer-bounces+weiss=3Duni-mainz.de@nongnu.org=20 -> On Behalf Of Ralf Hemmecke -> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 4:55 PM -> To: Gabriel Dos Reis -> Cc: list -> Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with"=20 -> (was curious algebrafailure) ->=20 +> > > The Spad compiler tries to treat category constructors, domain -> > constructors, package constructors, and function calls as=20 +> > constructors, package constructors, and function calls as > uniformly as > > possible. What I mean by that is that it applies the principle: -> >=20 +> > > > When calling a function, collect candidates, filter them by -> > applying the criteria that the arguments match the=20 +> > applying the criteria that the arguments match the > parameter types. > > And select the best match if possible. ->=20 -> Oh, I hope that will change. The compiler should *never* have=20 -> a choice=20 -> left. Either after filtering there remains *exactly* one=20 -> possibility or=20 +> +> Oh, I hope that will change. The compiler should *never* have +> a choice +> left. Either after filtering there remains *exactly* one +> possibility or > the compiler should complain. ->=20 +> > > And that irrespective of whether the arguments are value expressions > > or domain expressions. ->=20 -> > By "matching" here, I don't necessarily mean only `pattern=20 +> +> > By "matching" here, I don't necessarily mean only `pattern > matching'. -> > Rather I mean `coercible'. For example an expression of=20 +> > Rather I mean `coercible'. For example an expression of > type Integer > > is coercible to Float because Float exports the following function -> >=20 -> > coerce : Integer -> %=20 ->=20 -> That is exactly what Aldor does *not* do. It never applies=20 -> "coerce" if=20 -> one doesn't explicitly call for it. At the moment I find Aldor much=20 -> better in this respect. You should consider that some people might=20 -> implement a function that is not a nice "coerce" (although their=20 +> > +> > coerce : Integer -> % +> +> That is exactly what Aldor does *not* do. It never applies +> "coerce" if +> one doesn't explicitly call for it. At the moment I find Aldor much +> better in this respect. You should consider that some people might +> implement a function that is not a nice "coerce" (although their > function carries this name). ->=20 -> Just suppose in the context where there is an integer that must be=20 -> coerced into something of MyDomain. I have written a possible=20 -> coercion=20 -> function in MyDomain that could be used for that task by the SPAD=20 -> compiler. But what I actually want was to call another=20 -> function. I had=20 -> just forgotten to write it into the source code. Then the compiler=20 -> happily inserts "coerce" and I don't see (don't get a=20 -> warning) that my=20 -> code is actually not as I wanted it to be. Yes it means more=20 -> typing, but=20 +> +> Just suppose in the context where there is an integer that must be +> coerced into something of MyDomain. I have written a possible +> coercion +> function in MyDomain that could be used for that task by the SPAD +> compiler. But what I actually want was to call another +> function. I had +> just forgotten to write it into the source code. Then the compiler +> happily inserts "coerce" and I don't see (don't get a +> warning) that my +> code is actually not as I wanted it to be. Yes it means more +> typing, but > that is not a big burden if you see from the code what is happening. ->=20 -> Remember that in Axiom you can coerce anything to anything.=20 -> Just write a=20 +> +> Remember that in Axiom you can coerce anything to anything. +> Just write a > function "coerce" with the corresponding types. So if I add a function ->=20 +> > coerce: Float -> Integer ->=20 -> probably a lot will go wrong and nobody will easily find the error if=20 +> +> probably a lot will go wrong and nobody will easily find the error if > the compiler does not give an error or at least warn. ->=20 -> I understand that the idea of automatic coercion is a good one at an=20 +> +> I understand that the idea of automatic coercion is a good one at an > interactive level, but at the library I don't want to have it. ->=20 +> > I am quite interested how other people feel about automatic coercion. > (You should read Doye's thesis before you answer. > http://portal.axiom-developer.org/refs/articles/doye-aldor-phd.pdf) ->=20 -> If these coercion paths are always unique then I am certainly for it,=20 -> but I somehow think that there is still a lot of research to=20 +> +> If these coercion paths are always unique then I am certainly for it, +> but I somehow think that there is still a lot of research to > be done on it. ->=20 -> Ralf ->=20 ->=20 -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer ->=20 - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:28:16 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebra - failure) - - <46C045AC.9080800@hemmecke.de> <87zm0v1p31.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <46C070D0.2040309@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On 8/13/07, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > > The Spad compiler tries to treat category constructors, domain @@ -21560,19 +17654,11 @@ the "principle of least surprise" for new users. At the level of Spad be defined more carefully and in the most expressive manner possible that is consistent with an underlying categorical semantics. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:42:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: William Sit Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - - <46C00A7C.3B4A120A@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -Cc: list On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, William Sit wrote: @@ -21616,19 +17702,11 @@ that it asks the question whether S (of type Monad) is coercible to And the definition of coercible does not permit to return "yes". - --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:48:17 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: William Sit, axiom-dev Subject: Re: "has" and "with" and bug - <46C04255.5020208@hemmecke.de> - <46C07641.B8317CC1@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -Cc: On 08/13/2007 05:18 PM, William Sit wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -21680,21 +17758,11 @@ construction must implement foo, bar, and ans, that would be enough. In the file I gave, the type of "add {...}" exports rhx, MDom doesn't. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:49:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebra - failure) - - <46C045AC.9080800@hemmecke.de> - <87zm0v1p31.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46C070D0.2040309@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: list +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -21730,19 +17798,11 @@ uniformity, we should have a single rule. As for coercions, I'm not so sure I agree that they vilate the principle of least surprise. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:20:59 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - - <46C00A7C.3B4A120A@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - -Cc: list On 8/13/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > ... @@ -21797,23 +17857,11 @@ which certainly is coercible to Is it possible to trace how coerce is called in an unmodified Spad compiler that compiles Monad without an error message? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:24:52 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebra - failure) - - <46C045AC.9080800@hemmecke.de> <87zm0v1p31.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <46C070D0.2040309@hemmecke.de> - - -Cc: list +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) On 8/13/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -21862,21 +17910,11 @@ properties of domains and categories. There are many easy examples of this when you use the Axiom interpreter. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:29:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - - <46C00A7C.3B4A120A@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - - -Cc: list On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -21973,19 +18011,11 @@ Are you confused by the uses of "x" in the below? Oh yes, one gets tons of s-expressions. I already posted a snipped of 4000+ line. I can post more if you want, but not to the list. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 13 Aug 2007 00:39:45 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 13 Aug 2007 00:39:45 -0500 -Cc: list - Bill Page writes: @@ -22082,20 +18112,11 @@ A few obversations: Is that less confusing? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:46:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - - <46C00A7C.3B4A120A@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - - -Cc: list On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -22106,19 +18127,11 @@ Bill, sorry, I misread this part of your message. I'm starting a new build without the correction applied to the compiler. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:04:42 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - - - <87odhc2dsu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -Cc: list On 13 Aug 2007 00:39:45 -0500, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > ... @@ -22163,22 +18176,11 @@ The question of coercing Monad to must be yes. I guess the question still is how? and why? does it work. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start +Date: 13 Aug 2007 11:50:19 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: William Sit Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - - - <87d4xs3svi.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - - <46C01309.9A431617@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 13 Aug 2007 11:50:19 -0500 -Cc: list William Sit writes: @@ -22214,21 +18216,11 @@ Yes, that is close. Thanks; I had a copy, but I did not get back to it. --- Gaby - - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:06:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - - - <87odhc2dsu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - -Cc: list On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -22281,17 +18273,11 @@ A question is "why must it be `yes'"? Indeed. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:37:54 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - <87odhc2dsu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -Cc: list > 1. When a function is called, the compiler/interpreter determines > whether the arguments used to call the function are coercible @@ -22382,19 +18368,11 @@ compiler should check whether Monad exports SetCategory and *:(%,%)->% (which is what S in RepeatedSquaring requires). If that is fulfilled then everything is fine. No coercion necessary. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:49:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - - - <87odhc2dsu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46C096F2.1000108@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -22473,18 +18451,10 @@ all perspective -- that is why I would like to understand the "obviousness" of each point of view. I underdstand the coercion well enough and I believe I can prove that that system is sound. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:54:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke - - - <46C04255.5020208@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, aldor-l Subject: Re: "has" and "with" and bug On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -22511,28 +18481,12 @@ line. It turns out that the compiler does something akin to macro substitution without typeck checking or very minimal typecheck. See the function compImport. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:57:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Franz Lehner To: list - - <46C045AC.9080800@hemmecke.de> - <87zm0v1p31.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46C070D0.2040309@hemmecke.de> - - - - boundary="461446550-1814718225-1187025159=:29316" Subject: Another strange coercion - This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, - while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. - ---461446550-1814718225-1187025159=:29316 - Hello, > There are many easy examples of this when you use the Axiom interpreter. @@ -22724,18 +18678,11 @@ IA0KfQ0K --461446550-1814718225-1187025159=:29316-- - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:59:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebra - failure) - - <46C045AC.9080800@hemmecke.de> - <87zm0v1p31.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46C070D0.2040309@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -22772,25 +18719,12 @@ I don't think there is anything we can do about that. We can't police people that name coerce a function that does pretend. Sometimes that is bad, sometimes that is good. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 14:36:56 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - - - - <46BF80CF.E51CD0A@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - - - - - <46C017CB.5030003@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On 8/13/07, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > @@ -22840,21 +18774,11 @@ does X represent the named category (D) or just it's category-value Can you explain to me how I can use this? Or what to read? :-) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:27:15 +1000 From: Alasdair McAndrew -To: Bill Page, list +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: A bug in windows Axiom - boundary="----=_Part_49926_3897749.1187054835413" - -Cc: - -------=_Part_49926_3897749.1187054835413 Thanks, that worked fine! @@ -22914,30 +18838,11 @@ On 8/13/07, Bill Page wrote: > Bill Page. > -------=_Part_49926_3897749.1187054835413 - -Thanks, that worked fine!

Now - I don't want to have to go through the arduous business of downloading masses of stuff before I can compile Axiom on Windows (and neither do my students).  All I want is one simple installation file: download, install and that's it.  Do you know if the current Windows binary will ever be upgraded? -

Thanks,
Alasdair

On 8/13/07, Bill Page <Bill Page> wrote:
-On 8/13/07, Alasdair McAndrew wrote:
>
> I'm using Axiom with some cryptography students; at this very early stage we
> are having fun with very simple ciphers (Vigenere, Hill, etc), so we need to
-> transfer from a string to a list of integers.
>
>  Here is how to reproduce the bug: on windows Axiom, enter the following
> tiny function:
>
> str2lst(str)==map(x +-> ord(x)-65,members(str)) -
>
> Now try to use it:
>
> str2lst("ABCD")
>
> Axiom will crash (apparently it creates an error log, but I don't know where
> to find this log).  Help or advice would be very welcome! -
>

The current installer program for Axiom on Windows installs an older
version of Axiom in which the

  )set function compile on

bug was not yet fixed (refer to IssueTracker on the wiki). You should -
try issuing this command before the function definition. This cures
most problems with functions in this older version of Axiom.

I tried your function definition using a version of Axiom on windows
compiled from the FriCAS sources and it works fine. Compiling Axiom on -
Windows using the build-improvements or wh-sandbox branches should
also work fine. If you need some help doing that, just ask or see the
page

http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/BuildAxiom -

on the wiki.

Regards,
Bill Page.

- -------=_Part_49926_3897749.1187054835413-- - - - \start Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:06:55 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Alasdair McAndrew Subject: Re: A bug in windows Axiom - - <1d67a53c0708131827t13114b32gd39a1a5213c9717b@mail.gmail.com> -Cc: list On 8/13/07, Alasdair McAndrew wrote: @@ -22999,28 +18904,12 @@ re-compiling Axiom - just a little surgery: Let me know if you have any trouble with this. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:27:28 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) - - - - <46BF80CF.E51CD0A@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - - - - - <46C017CB.5030003@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: list, aldor-l , - Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > Ok. How do tell Aldor that I do not care about the name I am only > interested in the anonymous body of a given category definition? I @@ -23105,19 +18994,11 @@ main():() == { main(); ---END aaa.as - - \start Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:41:46 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebra - failure) - - <46C045AC.9080800@hemmecke.de> <87zm0v1p31.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <46C070D0.2040309@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: list +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) > | > Rather I mean `coercible'. For example an expression of type Integer > | > is coercible to Float because Float exports the following function @@ -23150,22 +19031,11 @@ from the source code? I like this extra bit of redundancy in the code. It is good for people who are not the authors. (And it probably makes compilation faster.) -Ralf - - - \start Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 06:00:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebra - failure) - - <46C045AC.9080800@hemmecke.de> - <87zm0v1p31.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46C070D0.2040309@hemmecke.de> - - <46C186EA.3060808@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -23226,23 +19096,11 @@ compiler should report ambiguity. Are you sure the coercion step is a performance bottleneck for real applications? --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebra - failure) - - <46C045AC.9080800@hemmecke.de> <87zm0v1p31.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <46C070D0.2040309@hemmecke.de> - - <46C186EA.3060808@hemmecke.de> - -From: Martin Rubey Date: 14 Aug 2007 13:48:30 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebra failure) My personal preference is: @@ -23261,19 +19119,11 @@ Using the Aldor interpreter however is a pain for me. DISCLAIMER: personal, subjective opinion. Still I hope they will be taken into account. -Martin - - - - \start Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:05:23 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Franz Lehner Subject: Re: Another strange coercion - <46C070D0.2040309@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: axiom-dev This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050602020605080809040402 @@ -23437,24 +19287,12 @@ CyclicGroup(n: PositiveInteger, g: Symbol): Group with { --------------050602020605080809040402-- - - \start Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:39:32 -0400 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious - algebrafailure) To: Martin Rubey -Message-id: <46C204F4.46F1768C@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 - - <46C045AC.9080800@hemmecke.de> <87zm0v1p31.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <46C070D0.2040309@hemmecke.de> - - <46C186EA.3060808@hemmecke.de> - - <9qir7ibalt.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebrafailure) +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -23462,79 +19300,68 @@ Martin Rubey wrote: > > * no automatic coercion in the compiler -In principle, I agree with this. The source of library code should be unambiguous -(in addition to well-documented). In practice, it would be nice if there is some -help, such as spitting out possible coercion paths when explicit coercions (there -being no other type under this policy) are not specified or ambiguous due to -identical signatures (hence, a similar help should be given for package calls). My -Spad experience has been that, conservatively estimating, over 70% of coding time -is on coercions and perhaps 10% of time to find and specify the package calls. So -any type of assistance, whether you call it automatic or not, will be much -appreciated. +In principle, I agree with this. The source of library code should be +unambiguous (in addition to well-documented). In practice, it would +be nice if there is some help, such as spitting out possible coercion +paths when explicit coercions (there being no other type under this +policy) are not specified or ambiguous due to identical signatures +(hence, a similar help should be given for package calls). My Spad +experience has been that, conservatively estimating, over 70% of +coding time is on coercions and perhaps 10% of time to find and +specify the package calls. So any type of assistance, whether you call +it automatic or not, will be much appreciated. > * automatic coercion (as intelligent as possible, possibly even several steps, > i.e., assuming that all coercion paths yield the same result, although this > will sometimes not be true in reality) in the interpreter -I don't believe there should be two different strategies (or standards if you -will), one for compiler and one for interpreter. If people find automatic coercion -in the interpreter convenient and useful say 90% of the time, that saves time in -developing code. (There are plenty of empirical evidence: the popularity of Maple -and Mathematica in casual as well as serious computations.) Having a different -strategy is the cause of all the "pain" when a fully tested interpreter code is -turned into Spad because it would not be accepted by the compiler (that is where -the over 70% of time of code development is spent). I would prefer the compiler -also "preprocesses" source code, perhaps reporting (much like ")set mess bot on" in -the Axiom interpreter) its choices and ideally, in a supporting editor, allows the -programmer to decide to accept or not. The Axiom language should be one, not two. -We learn through repetitions. This will significantly lower the slopes of the +I don't believe there should be two different strategies (or standards +if you will), one for compiler and one for interpreter. If people find +automatic coercion in the interpreter convenient and useful say 90% of +the time, that saves time in developing code. (There are plenty of +empirical evidence: the popularity of Maple and Mathematica in casual +as well as serious computations.) Having a different strategy is the +cause of all the "pain" when a fully tested interpreter code is turned +into Spad because it would not be accepted by the compiler (that is +where the over 70% of time of code development is spent). I would +prefer the compiler also "preprocesses" source code, perhaps reporting +(much like ")set mess bot on" in the Axiom interpreter) its choices +and ideally, in a supporting editor, allows the programmer to decide +to accept or not. The Axiom language should be one, not two. We learn +through repetitions. This will significantly lower the slopes of the learning curve. -For diehard users, there is no prohibition for them to explicitly call coercions or -packages. +For diehard users, there is no prohibition for them to explicitly call +coercions or packages. -The problem of different paths of coercions between two given domains has to be -dealt with separately, from a general policy to enforce commutativity of diagrams -(in the sense of Category Theory). It is not just a problem on coercion maps. A -database of commutative diagrams need to be maintained. It is a very important part -of constructive algebra (which is partly based on algorithms for universal -objects). +The problem of different paths of coercions between two given domains +has to be dealt with separately, from a general policy to enforce +commutativity of diagrams (in the sense of Category Theory). It is not +just a problem on coercion maps. A database of commutative diagrams +need to be maintained. It is a very important part of constructive +algebra (which is partly based on algorithms for universal objects). > When writing library code, the extra pain to write down the coercion is really > worth the effort. The combinat experience was much more pleasant than the > Guess experience, in this particular point. -No, "pain" should not be the norm (and definitely, not "extra pain"), but rather -the metric. Intuitively, positive experience can only be assured when there is less -pain. +No, "pain" should not be the norm (and definitely, not "extra pain"), +but rather the metric. Intuitively, positive experience can only be +assured when there is less pain. > Using the Aldor interpreter however is a pain for me. -For me, translating Spad code accepted by the Axiom interpreter into Spad code -accepted by the compiler is a pain. Either require explicit coercions and calls in -both the compiler and interpreter, or provide the SAME verifiable/selectable -assistance in both cases. - -William - - - +For me, translating Spad code accepted by the Axiom interpreter into +Spad code accepted by the compiler is a pain. Either require explicit +coercions and calls in both the compiler and interpreter, or provide +the SAME verifiable/selectable assistance in both cases. \start Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:10:07 -0400 From: Bill Page To: William Sit -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious - algebrafailure) - - <46C045AC.9080800@hemmecke.de> <87zm0v1p31.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <46C070D0.2040309@hemmecke.de> - - <46C186EA.3060808@hemmecke.de> - - <9qir7ibalt.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <46C204F4.46F1768C@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebrafailure) +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On 8/14/07, William Sit wrote: > ... @@ -23552,11 +19379,6 @@ strick interpreter might be viewed by some as more painful for the user, so then there would be even more reason to create an alternate single-typed (not type-free!) user interface language like BNatural. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 19:21:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp @@ -23589,25 +19411,11 @@ Those interested can see the current beta files at: http://portal.axiom-developer.org/Members/starseeker/asdfliterate/asdf-literate.lisp.pamphlet/download http://portal.axiom-developer.org/Members/starseeker/clexttex/cl-exttex.lisp.pamphlet/download - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Got a little couch potato? -Check out fun summer activities for kids. -http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz - - - \start Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:42:31 -0400 From: Bill Page To: list Subject: Re: Lisp in Small Pieces - <842036.67827.qm@web56706.mail.re3.yahoo.com> - - <46BD365A.7040105@cesmail.net> - -Well, I guess the pieces were'nt small enough. :-) @@ -23647,16 +19455,12 @@ On 8/15/07, Amazon.ca Customer Service wrote: > Cher Internaute, > > A votre attention de la part d'Amazon.ca. -> - - \start Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:54:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Lisp in Small Pieces -To: Bill Page, list -Cc: --- Bill Page wrote: @@ -23677,27 +19481,12 @@ winter just definitively ended or something's up with the pricing ;-). :-). I'd actually suggest Steve for it if he needs a copy, or maybe Bill you could use some new book on web programming? -Cheers, -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Got a little couch potato? -Check out fun summer activities for kids. -http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz - - - \start Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:35:08 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was - curious algebrafailure) - <87zm0v1p31.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46C070D0.2040309@hemmecke.de> <46C186EA.3060808@hemmecke.de> <9qir7ibalt.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> <46C204F4.46F1768C@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebrafailure) +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On 08/14/2007 11:10 PM, Bill Page wrote: > On 8/14/07, William Sit wrote: @@ -23745,26 +19534,12 @@ rewrite your original BNatural experiment. You cannot expect that it will be painless to implement library code from fuzzy experimental code. (Experimental) Code that "just works" is not enough. -Ralf - - - \start -To: William Sit -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious - algebrafailure) - - <46C045AC.9080800@hemmecke.de> <87zm0v1p31.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <46C070D0.2040309@hemmecke.de> - - <46C186EA.3060808@hemmecke.de> - - <9qir7ibalt.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <46C204F4.46F1768C@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -From: Martin Rubey Date: 16 Aug 2007 09:01:11 +0200 -Cc: list, Ralf Hemmecke, - Gabriel Dos Reis +From: Martin Rubey +To: William Sit +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebrafailure) +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke, Gabriel Dos Reis I do not know yet what Bnatural is. But if the axiom interpreter does not provide automatic coercions and type guessing, you might as well throw it @@ -23864,29 +19639,12 @@ If you want axiom to use GUESSP you can type of course. -Martin - - - - \start Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 06:11:42 -0400 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious - algebrafailure) To: Martin Rubey -Message-id: <46C422DE.4D513C6F@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 - - <46C045AC.9080800@hemmecke.de> <87zm0v1p31.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <46C070D0.2040309@hemmecke.de> - - <46C186EA.3060808@hemmecke.de> - - <9qir7ibalt.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> <46C204F4.46F1768C@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <9qy7gc55fs.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list, Ralf Hemmecke, - Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] "has" and "with" (was curious algebrafailure) +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke, Gabriel Dos Reis Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -23896,12 +19654,19 @@ Martin Rubey wrote: > What I found most impressive is that the axiom interpreter is designed well > enough to work seamlessly with new packages. -Since you do find the axiom interpreter helpful and indeed getting the types right (your examples are not particularly impressive to me because the names and -signatures are quite unique and only the arguments need be matched), why aren't you and Ralf in favor of improving the compiler so that the compiler can be -equally helpful? Why should the human programmer be forced to manually perform what the interpreter is doing so well (and most likely can be even improved)? -Currently, to translate from interpreter language to compiler language, one needs a combination of ")show," ")display," ")set mess bottom on," ")set message auto -on," and hyperdoc searches to identify packages and coercions. This process is repeated every time there is a compiler complaint. This is time that could be spent -for documentation instead. +Since you do find the axiom interpreter helpful and indeed getting the +types right (your examples are not particularly impressive to me +because the names and signatures are quite unique and only the +arguments need be matched), why aren't you and Ralf in favor of +improving the compiler so that the compiler can be equally helpful? +Why should the human programmer be forced to manually perform what the +interpreter is doing so well (and most likely can be even improved)? +Currently, to translate from interpreter language to compiler +language, one needs a combination of ")show," ")display," ")set mess +bottom on," ")set message auto on," and hyperdoc searches to identify +packages and coercions. This process is repeated every time there is a +compiler complaint. This is time that could be spent for documentation +instead. Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:35:08 +0200 Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -23912,58 +19677,75 @@ Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > You cannot expect that it will be painless to implement library > code from fuzzy experimental code. -Why not? All code is experimental until it is final and frozen. Documentation is constantly being added and revised. I don't consider documentation "pain," -because it is necessary. I do consider spending time to rewrite interpreter code into compiler code a waste of time and therefore "pain". (Compare this with the -pain associated with style changes for bibliography items when bibtex is not used.) As long as the interpreter language (what you call experimental language) and -the compiler (or library) language are one and the same, the pain level would be reduced substantially (to zero if the two are 100% compatible). Of course, we -should not let the compiler "guess" like the interpreter currently does, but the compiler can "help" to provide a set of choices and recommended selections (much -like a spell-checker presents a list of alternatives to let the writer select or decline). So in my dream editor for Axiom, there will be a pull down menu to -"type-check" and "package-check". This "help" should be the same whether one is "experimenting" or writing library code (and ideally, even when writing a pamphlet -if pamphlet is the de facto source) . This help need not be "automatic" as in the current interpreter. In all other languages I have experience, the -"experimental" and the library languages are one (Maple, Mathematica for example). +Why not? All code is experimental until it is final and +frozen. Documentation is constantly being added and revised. I don't +consider documentation "pain," because it is necessary. I do consider +spending time to rewrite interpreter code into compiler code a waste +of time and therefore "pain". (Compare this with the pain associated +with style changes for bibliography items when bibtex is not used.) As +long as the interpreter language (what you call experimental language) +and the compiler (or library) language are one and the same, the pain +level would be reduced substantially (to zero if the two are 100% +compatible). Of course, we should not let the compiler "guess" like +the interpreter currently does, but the compiler can "help" to provide +a set of choices and recommended selections (much like a spell-checker +presents a list of alternatives to let the writer select or +decline). So in my dream editor for Axiom, there will be a pull down +menu to "type-check" and "package-check". This "help" should be the +same whether one is "experimenting" or writing library code (and +ideally, even when writing a pamphlet if pamphlet is the de facto +source) . This help need not be "automatic" as in the current +interpreter. In all other languages I have experience, the +"experimental" and the library languages are one (Maple, Mathematica +for example). > William, you should really try to experience how it is to program in > Aldor. Sure you will feel some pain in the beginning, but that will not > last long. You will love the clarity. -Clarity is achieved by the programmer, not by the language and Axiom code can be just as clear as Aldor code. What the Aldor compiler does better is its better -diagnostics and arguably a more expressive language. Learning a new language is not "pain." For Aldor, the "pain" comes from missed Axiom algebra libraries and -incompatibilities (much like between Maple and Mathematica). - -I was at IBM Research when the new compiler for the precursor A# of Aldor was -written. At that time, I was using Scratchpad II, the old compiler, which was roughly the same as the current Axiom compiler. I was able to write my programs -without knowing lisp, but there were bugs and design-related suggestions that the team would not fix or modify because it was working on the new language and -compiler. I mention this because I am afraid the same thing may happen again: instead of fixing the problems, it would be more fun (and probably easier to obtain -grants and publish papers) to start a new language, promising to be better. Certainly, there are good reasons to do that, too, especially if the problems are due -to poor design rather than implementation. Nonetheless, a new language that is not 100% backward compatible and without automatic conversion facilities alienates -the earlier programmers and obsoletes the old code base. The three incompatibles (interpreter, Spad compiler, Aldor compiler) are, I believe, the main reasons why -the commercial version did not receive wider popularity. This triad of languages becomes confusing to most users, old or new. The few gurus, with due respects and -admirations, are great hackers (in addition to being excellent mathematicians and computer scientists). - -But hacking is only a good skill to find bugs or get a program working, not essential, and indeed, may even be detrimental, to write readable programs. Hacked -code distracts and hides the natural flow of mathematical or computational ideas. It would make documentation "extra painful" to write, and thus often, not -written. - -The question is: do we want Axiom/Aldor to remain the havens for hackers or make it palatable to general researchers, whose hacking skills and stamina may be, on -average, much less? - -William - - - - - +Clarity is achieved by the programmer, not by the language and Axiom +code can be just as clear as Aldor code. What the Aldor compiler does +better is its better diagnostics and arguably a more expressive +language. Learning a new language is not "pain." For Aldor, the "pain" +comes from missed Axiom algebra libraries and incompatibilities (much +like between Maple and Mathematica). + +I was at IBM Research when the new compiler for the precursor A# of +Aldor was written. At that time, I was using Scratchpad II, the old +compiler, which was roughly the same as the current Axiom compiler. I +was able to write my programs without knowing lisp, but there were +bugs and design-related suggestions that the team would not fix or +modify because it was working on the new language and compiler. I +mention this because I am afraid the same thing may happen again: +instead of fixing the problems, it would be more fun (and probably +easier to obtain grants and publish papers) to start a new language, +promising to be better. Certainly, there are good reasons to do that, +too, especially if the problems are due to poor design rather than +implementation. Nonetheless, a new language that is not 100% backward +compatible and without automatic conversion facilities alienates the +earlier programmers and obsoletes the old code base. The three +incompatibles (interpreter, Spad compiler, Aldor compiler) are, I +believe, the main reasons why the commercial version did not receive +wider popularity. This triad of languages becomes confusing to most +users, old or new. The few gurus, with due respects and admirations, +are great hackers (in addition to being excellent mathematicians and +computer scientists). + +But hacking is only a good skill to find bugs or get a program +working, not essential, and indeed, may even be detrimental, to write +readable programs. Hacked code distracts and hides the natural flow of +mathematical or computational ideas. It would make documentation +"extra painful" to write, and thus often, not written. + +The question is: do we want Axiom/Aldor to remain the havens for +hackers or make it palatable to general researchers, whose hacking +skills and stamina may be, on average, much less? \start Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:17:33 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: "has" and "with" - - - <87odhc2dsu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46C096F2.1000108@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: list, aldor-l > | > Now the compiler goes on typecheking the defnition x ** n. > | > It sees the use of expt() and find out that the only expt() in @@ -24097,23 +19879,12 @@ check whether S of type Monad has at least the exports that are required by the argument type of RepeatedSquaring. (And it has.) I don't see a need for coercion at all. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:23:30 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page - - <46C045AC.9080800@hemmecke.de> - <87zm0v1p31.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <46C070D0.2040309@hemmecke.de> - - - -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: SubDomain in SPAD and not in Aldor +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > No. subdomain is already part of Spad. Spad implements things this way > but Aldor does not. If I am discussing changing anything it would be @@ -24131,19 +19902,12 @@ think that there is any gain from keeping SubDomain in the SPAD language. Let's report about this after the workshop. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:52:53 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: William Sit - <87zm0v1p31.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46C070D0.2040309@hemmecke.de> <46C186EA.3060808@hemmecke.de> <9qir7ibalt.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> <46C204F4.46F1768C@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <9qy7gc55fs.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <46C422DE.4D513C6F@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: .spad, .input, .as and autocoercion +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On 08/16/2007 12:11 PM, William Sit wrote: > Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -24268,25 +20032,10 @@ that will change in the future. At least a bit. Languages will get better and closer to mathematics and people will be more knowledgable about computer programming. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 06:53:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke - - <46C045AC.9080800@hemmecke.de> - <87zm0v1p31.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46C070D0.2040309@hemmecke.de> - - <46C186EA.3060808@hemmecke.de> - - <9qir7ibalt.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <46C204F4.46F1768C@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <9qy7gc55fs.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <46C422DE.4D513C6F@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> <46C42C85.9030909@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list Subject: Re: .spad, .input, .as and autocoercion On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -24326,27 +20075,12 @@ means they understand what the compiler is doing internally. Coercions in mathematical programs don't the programs less constructive. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: William Sit - - <46C045AC.9080800@hemmecke.de> <87zm0v1p31.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <46C070D0.2040309@hemmecke.de> - - <46C186EA.3060808@hemmecke.de> - - <9qir7ibalt.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <46C204F4.46F1768C@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <9qy7gc55fs.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <46C422DE.4D513C6F@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -From: Martin Rubey Date: 16 Aug 2007 14:10:10 +0200 -Cc: list, Ralf Hemmecke, - Gabriel Dos Reis +From: Martin Rubey +To: William Sit Subject: Re: .spad, .input, .as and autocoercion +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke, Gabriel Dos Reis William Sit writes: @@ -24386,23 +20120,11 @@ Try using Aldor! Even with the axiom library, you will find that )sh, )di, etc. are rarely needed, since the compiler tells you quite exactly what he is missing. The combinat experience was very enlightening for me. - -Martin - - - - \start Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 07:18:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: "has" and "with" - - - <87odhc2dsu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46C096F2.1000108@hemmecke.de> - - <46C4243D.6070108@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, aldor-l On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -24455,27 +20177,12 @@ to produce a value of a type -- uniformly. It seems to me that you're arguing two non-uniform rules: one for value, and one for types. Is that correct? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 07:28:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey - - <46C045AC.9080800@hemmecke.de> - <87zm0v1p31.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46C070D0.2040309@hemmecke.de> - - <46C186EA.3060808@hemmecke.de> - - <9qir7ibalt.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <46C204F4.46F1768C@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <9qy7gc55fs.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <46C422DE.4D513C6F@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <9qhcmzbrz1.fsf_-_@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list, Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: .spad, .input, .as and autocoercion +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -24497,28 +20204,12 @@ everything to be written explicitly. Even Aldor permits some coercions -- sorry, they are called "courtesy conversions". --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Gabriel Dos Reis - - <46C045AC.9080800@hemmecke.de> <87zm0v1p31.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <46C070D0.2040309@hemmecke.de> - - <46C186EA.3060808@hemmecke.de> - - <9qir7ibalt.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <46C204F4.46F1768C@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <9qy7gc55fs.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <46C422DE.4D513C6F@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <9qhcmzbrz1.fsf_-_@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - -From: Martin Rubey Date: 16 Aug 2007 14:34:20 +0200 -Cc: list, Ralf Hemmecke +From: Martin Rubey +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: .spad, .input, .as and autocoercion +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -24529,31 +20220,12 @@ Yes. But do note that they involve only builtin types, as far as I know. If for some reason these types would not be builtin anymore, I'd also be in favour of removing the coercions concerned. - -Martin - - - - \start Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 07:37:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey - - <46C045AC.9080800@hemmecke.de> - <87zm0v1p31.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46C070D0.2040309@hemmecke.de> - - <46C186EA.3060808@hemmecke.de> - - <9qir7ibalt.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <46C204F4.46F1768C@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <9qy7gc55fs.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <46C422DE.4D513C6F@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <9qhcmzbrz1.fsf_-_@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9qr6m3k69f.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list, Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: .spad, .input, .as and autocoercion +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -24567,28 +20239,12 @@ On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Martin Rubey wrote: I like the principle of giving built-in types and user-defined types equal support. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 09:02:29 -0400 From: William Sit To: Ralf Hemmecke -Message-id: <46C44AE5.C40936F6@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 - - <46C045AC.9080800@hemmecke.de> <87zm0v1p31.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <46C070D0.2040309@hemmecke.de> - - <46C186EA.3060808@hemmecke.de> - - <9qir7ibalt.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> <46C204F4.46F1768C@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <9qy7gc55fs.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <46C422DE.4D513C6F@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <46C42C85.9030909@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: .spad, .input, .as and autocoercion +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -24709,23 +20365,11 @@ should be denied others. Providing help does not mean the language is changed. How to program the help is an implementation issue, not a design principle. -William - - - - \start Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:26:27 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: "has" and "with" - - - <87odhc2dsu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46C096F2.1000108@hemmecke.de> - - <46C4243D.6070108@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: list, aldor-l On 08/16/2007 02:18 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -24846,26 +20490,11 @@ that you would like to be able to distinguish No? Where would be the uniformity here? -Ralf - - - - - - \start Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:35:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: "has" and "with" - - - <87odhc2dsu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46C096F2.1000108@hemmecke.de> - - <46C4243D.6070108@hemmecke.de> - - <46C45083.5070406@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, aldor-l On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -24907,24 +20536,11 @@ calls. The uniformity is in terms of prerequsite of instantiation -- same rules for everybody. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:43:45 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: "has" and "with" - - - <87odhc2dsu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46C096F2.1000108@hemmecke.de> - - <46C4243D.6070108@hemmecke.de> - - <46C45083.5070406@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: list, aldor-l > | Foo(Integer) = Foo(String) = with {} > @@ -24941,26 +20557,11 @@ So b1 ... b4 should all be true and Foo(String) is indistinguishable from Foo(Integer). -Ralf - - - - \start Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 09:02:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: "has" and "with" - - - <87odhc2dsu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46C096F2.1000108@hemmecke.de> - - <46C4243D.6070108@hemmecke.de> - - <46C45083.5070406@hemmecke.de> - - <46C45491.1030907@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, aldor-l On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -24990,26 +20591,11 @@ but 1 is not String, 1 is not Integer. I'm missing the logical reasons for that. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:38:08 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: "has" and "with" - - - <87odhc2dsu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46C096F2.1000108@hemmecke.de> - - <46C4243D.6070108@hemmecke.de> - - <46C45083.5070406@hemmecke.de> - - <46C45491.1030907@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: list, aldor-l Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -25082,28 +20668,11 @@ matter. But it does, and perhaps that is even good. Hmmm, sorry, I seem to annoy you. Anyway, I'll stop explaining things if I don't get any good explanation of your point of view in return. -Ralf - - - - \start Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 09:56:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: "has" and "with" - - - <87odhc2dsu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46C096F2.1000108@hemmecke.de> - - <46C4243D.6070108@hemmecke.de> - - <46C45083.5070406@hemmecke.de> - - <46C45491.1030907@hemmecke.de> - - <46C46150.8020405@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, aldor-l On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -25249,28 +20818,11 @@ have one rule for values, one for types, and one for whatever. Notice that, in that view, the notion of value equality is not involved. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:34:54 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: "has" and "with" - - - <87odhc2dsu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46C096F2.1000108@hemmecke.de> - - <46C4243D.6070108@hemmecke.de> - - <46C45083.5070406@hemmecke.de> - - <46C45491.1030907@hemmecke.de> - - <46C46150.8020405@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: list, aldor-l Thank you for your answers that was better. May I continue. @@ -25392,29 +20944,11 @@ baz(1) has nothing to do with the implementation of "=" in Integer? That sounds a bit strange to me. What are contexts (examples) where =$Integer would not be needed? -Ralf - - - \start Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:48:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: "has" and "with" - - - <87odhc2dsu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46C096F2.1000108@hemmecke.de> - - <46C4243D.6070108@hemmecke.de> - - <46C45083.5070406@hemmecke.de> - - <46C45491.1030907@hemmecke.de> - - <46C46150.8020405@hemmecke.de> - - <46C46E9E.30302@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, aldor-l On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -25499,32 +21033,11 @@ baz(0), baz(x), I don't see where the definition of =$Integer is involved. Nor, am I sure it should be involved -- utimately we would like =$Integer to be a function itself that can be called... --- Gaby - - - - \start Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:43:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: "has" and "with" - - - <87odhc2dsu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <46C096F2.1000108@hemmecke.de> - - <46C4243D.6070108@hemmecke.de> - - <46C45083.5070406@hemmecke.de> - - <46C45491.1030907@hemmecke.de> - - <46C46150.8020405@hemmecke.de> - - <46C46E9E.30302@hemmecke.de> - - <46C47A42.9060104@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -25680,17 +21193,11 @@ Yes. That works within Dreyer's framework, I think. Right -- I don't want pretend and pointer comparion that way :-) At least not in "everyday programs". --- Gaby - - - \start -Subject: Re: typo in the guessing package pamphlet, was: Re: - Algebra and literate documentation -To: Martin Rubey Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:13:15 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: Re: typo in the guessing package pamphlet, was: Re: Algebra and literate documentation Martin Rubey wrote: > Tim Daly writes: @@ -25710,18 +21217,11 @@ find-algebra-files needs <>= and <>=. In wh-sandbox I have changed dom: to domain and pkg: to package, but I have missed a few places. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start -Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:49:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Tim Daly writes: @@ -25757,18 +21257,11 @@ included sources. Note: the tarball builds algebra from the cached Lisp files. AFAICS there is no support for automatic recompilation of algebra. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:03:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: bootstrap Meta/Boot -Cc: list On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Waldek Hebisch wrote: @@ -25810,18 +21303,11 @@ Many thanks, Waldek. I just downloaded it to a safe place. OK; thanks! --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:24:42 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Alasdair McAndrew Subject: Re: A bug in windows Axiom - - <1d67a53c0708131827t13114b32gd39a1a5213c9717b@mail.gmail.com> -Cc: list On 8/13/07, Alasdair McAndrew wrote: @@ -25841,35 +21327,21 @@ A work in progress pamphlet (very undocumented currently) of the script can be found here: http://alfredoportes.com/~alfredo/axiom/winstaller.pamphlet -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - \start Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:25:39 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Alasdair McAndrew Subject: Re: A bug in windows Axiom - - <1d67a53c0708131827t13114b32gd39a1a5213c9717b@mail.gmail.com> - -Cc: list Correction: https://alfredoportes.com/~alfredo/axiom/winstaller.pamphlet - - \start Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:43:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp +To: Alfredo Portes, Alasdair McAndrew Subject: Re: A bug in windows Axiom -To: Alfredo Portes, - Alasdair McAndrew -Cc: list --- Alfredo Portes wrote: @@ -25881,22 +21353,10 @@ Very nice! Unfortunately I don't have a Windows machine to try the installer on yet. Glad to see someone is looking into the NSIS generation procedure. -Cheers, -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. -http://sims.yahoo.com/ - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:03:09 -0500 -To: Alfredo Portes, alfredo@axiom-developer.org -Cc: list +From: Tim Daly +To: Alfredo Portes Subject: documentation Jose, @@ -25911,15 +21371,10 @@ and then you can type things like )help cd -Tim - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:08:21 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Alfredo Portes, alfredo@axiom-developer.org -Cc: list Subject: documentation Jose, @@ -25935,21 +21390,11 @@ Thus if you create $AXIOM/doc/spadhelp/foo.help you can say: If you write any new help files please post copies to the axiom-developer mailing list. -Tim - - - \start Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:37:38 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Alasdair McAndrew Subject: Re: A bug in windows Axiom - - <1d67a53c0708131827t13114b32gd39a1a5213c9717b@mail.gmail.com> - - - <1d67a53c0708231447o4f02dc71mfddfaa423af88e22@mail.gmail.com> -Cc: axiom-dev Hi Alasdair, @@ -25962,12 +21407,10 @@ help files is here: http://alfredo.axiom-developer.org/axiom.exe - - \start -To: list Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:15:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: Meta parser There were claims that meta translator does not work. One can @@ -25983,19 +21426,12 @@ fnew.meta: One can check that differences between fnew.lisp fnewmeta.lisp are trivial (due to different Lisp printer). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:36:42 -0500 -To: Alasdair McAndrew - Alfredo Portes, -Cc: list +From: Tim Daly +To: Alasdair McAndrew, Alfredo Portes Subject: new algebra documentation +Cc: list Alasdair, Jose, @@ -26018,13 +21454,9 @@ You can get the latest at 5) type )help CliffordAlgebra -Tim - - - \start Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 12:37:30 -0300 -From: "Pablo De Napoli" +From: Pablo De Napoli To: list Subject: problems compiling openaxiom @@ -26058,7 +21490,7 @@ Pablo Here is my error report on building Open Axiom: pcd ./src && \ -=09=09make "PATH=3D/home/pablo/temporal/open-axiom.trunk/build-oa/build/i68= +=09=09make "PATH=/home/pablo/temporal/open-axiom.trunk/build-oa/build/i68= 6-pc-linux/bin:/home/pablo/axiom/mnt/linux/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/= i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2:/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.12/bin:/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.= 2.12/jre/bin:/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.12/jre/javaws:/usr/kde/3.5/bin:/usr/qt/3/bi= @@ -26078,11 +21510,11 @@ make[2]: se ingresa al directorio echo '(let* ((sys-cc compiler::*cc*) ' \ =09 ' (sys-ld compiler::*ld*) ' \ =09 ' (compiler::*cc* (concatenate (quote string) ' \ -=09 ' "../../libtool --mode=3Dcompile= +=09 ' "../../libtool --mode=compile= " ' \ =09 ' sys-cc)) ' \ =09 ' (compiler::*ld* (concatenate (quote string) ' \ -=09 ' "../../libtool --mode=3Dlink " = +=09 ' "../../libtool --mode=link " = ' \ =09 ' sys-ld))) ' \ '(compiler::link (quote ("core.o")) "lisp" ' \ @@ -26115,12 +21547,12 @@ Dedicated to the memory of W. Schelter Use (help) to get some basic information on how to use GCL. -> gcc -c -O3 -march=3Dathlon -funroll-loops -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -Wal= -l -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -I/usr/lib/gcl-2.6.7/unixport/../h -= +> gcc -c -O3 -march=athlon -funroll-loops -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -Wal= +l -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -I/usr/lib/gcl-2.6.7/unixport/../h -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -c ./user-init.c -w -fPIC -DPIC -o ./.libs/user-in= it.o - gcc -c -O3 -march=3Dathlon -funroll-loops -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer --Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe + gcc -c -O3 -march=athlon -funroll-loops -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer +-Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -I/usr/lib/gcl-2.6.7/unixport/../h -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -c ./user-init.c -w -o ./user-init.o >/dev/null 2>&1 gcc -o ./raw_lisp ./user-init.o core.o -Wl,-Map ./raw_lisp_map @@ -26147,11 +21579,9 @@ make[1]: se sale del directorio `/home/pablo/temporal/open-axiom.trunk/build-oa/src' make: *** [all-src] Error 2 - - \start Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 12:42:44 -0300 -From: "Pablo De Napoli" +From: Pablo De Napoli To: list Subject: problem compiling fricas @@ -26238,17 +21668,13 @@ make[1]: *** [all-lisp] Error 2 make[1]: se sale del directorio `/home/pablo/temporal/fricas/trunk/src' make: *** [all-src] Error 2 - - \start Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 09:11:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp +To: Pablo De Napoli Subject: Re: problems compiling openaxiom -To: Pablo De Napoli , list -Cc: - ---- Pablo De Napoli wrote: +--- Pablo De Napoli wrote: > Hi, > @@ -26292,24 +21718,11 @@ will involve a re-shuffling of the branch organization. As for OpenAxiom and Fricas, those are separate projects and will have their own decisions to make about tool choices and build trees. -Cheers, -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. -http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 - - - \start -Subject: Re: problem compiling fricas -To: Pablo De Napoli Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 19:33:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list, fricas-devel@googlegroups.com - +To: Pablo De Napoli +Subject: Re: problem compiling fricas > Here is my bug report on compiling Fricas > By the way, I think that using the standard configure/make/make install @@ -26376,15 +21789,9 @@ PS: In general you should report FriCAS problems on fricas-devel mailing list. I send this message also to axiom-devel because the problem may affect all Axiom derivatives. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:57:41 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20070721.01.tpd.patch applied to silver @@ -26611,11 +22018,9 @@ index a4fc0ed..6f23778 100644 @ - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:08:34 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20070721.02.tpd.patch applied to silver @@ -26648,12 +22053,9 @@ index c6e7542..c39b435 100644 (defun new () (|New,ENTRY|)) - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:14:00 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20070810.01.tpd.patch applied to silver @@ -27580,11 +22982,9 @@ index 850237d..eaa76b7 100644 BOOT::|$QuickCode| BOOT::GENVAR BOOT::|$TypeEqui| BOOT::TOKEN-TYPE BOOT::|updateSourceFiles| BOOT::|$BFtag| - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:24:47 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20070811.02.tpd.patch applied to silver @@ -27628,11 +23028,9 @@ index 5778b44..bd491f9 100644 \eject \begin{thebibliography}{99} - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:27:02 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20070811.03.tpd.patch applied to silver @@ -27796,11 +23194,9 @@ index 7247d7a..2478e04 100644 (define-function 'FIX #'truncate) - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:31:36 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20070812.01.tpd.patch applied to silver @@ -29390,12 +24786,9 @@ index c210c87..ec80f68 100644 \end{thebibliography} \end{document} - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:32:45 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20070812.02.tpd.patch applied to silver @@ -29435,11 +24828,9 @@ index c589e78..f704c76 100644 --THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND CONTRIBUTORS "AS --IS" AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:33:58 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20070812.03.tpd.patch applied to silver @@ -29537,11 +24928,9 @@ index 0000000..6f588bc +\end{thebibliography} +\end{document} - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:10:47 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20070722.01.tpd.patch applied to silver @@ -29714,11 +25103,9 @@ index 49f9cc4..23ec4cc 100644 \item [(a)] you have to add the file to the list of files currently there (e.g. see BROBJS above) - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:39:11 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20070821.01.tpd.patch applied to silver @@ -29744,11 +25131,9 @@ index ca19ad0..5c73b11 100644 rm -f ${DOC}/bookvol6 ) - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:40:29 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20070821.02.tpd.patch applied to silver @@ -30263,11 +25648,9 @@ index 4ab4355..ade0c54 100644 \section{Command Completion} Hyperdoc has the ability to do command completion. The known commands - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:44:20 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20070822.02.tpd.patch applied to silver @@ -32350,11 +27733,9 @@ index 0000000..77f0027 +\end{thebibliography} +\end{document} - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:45:34 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20070823.01.tpd.patch applied to silver @@ -34024,11 +29405,9 @@ index 77f0027..54ea77c 100644 <>= Copyright (c) 1991-2002, The Numerical ALgorithms Group Ltd. - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:49:23 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20070826.01.tpd.patch applied to silver @@ -35313,12 +30692,9 @@ index f0e163d..6e03ff3 100644 @ - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:50:55 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20070826.02.tpd.patch applied to silver @@ -35558,11 +30934,9 @@ index 6e03ff3..ed3bde9 100644 HomogeneousDistributedMultivariatePolynomial (HDMP) - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 03:01:04 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20070826.03.tpd.patch applied to silver @@ -35601,11 +30975,9 @@ index 1aaaa04..edb5476 100644 20070826 tpd src/algebra/Makefile add Expression.help 20070826 tpd src/algebra/expr.spad add Expression.help - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:41:38 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20070822.01.tpd.patch applied to silver @@ -38481,11 +33853,9 @@ index ade0c54..d80388b 100644 \printindex \end{document} - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 03:48:15 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: synching of all sources @@ -38498,16 +33868,10 @@ All 5 axiom locations now have the same sources I will be away on business this week. -Tim - - - \start Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:12:39 -0700 From: Arthur Ralfs To: list -Message-id: <46D473A7.7080907@shaw.ca> -MIME-version: 1.0 Subject: Interpreter commands from Spad? Hi All, @@ -38706,22 +34070,11 @@ My problem is that I don't know how to interpret the output and get the correctly formatted TeX. At this point I've tried everything I can think of. -Thanks for any help - -Arthur Ralfs - - - - - - - \start +Date: 29 Aug 2007 10:52:11 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Arthur Ralfs Subject: Re: Interpreter commands from Spad? -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 29 Aug 2007 10:52:11 +0200 -Cc: list Dear Arthur, @@ -38737,17 +34090,11 @@ because I want to use tex4ht to transform the result into html (or mathml or whatever). I guess that this is not what you want, so please give me some further hints! -Martin - - - - \start Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:27:24 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Arthur Ralfs Subject: Re: Interpreter commands from Spad? -Cc: list On 8/28/07, Arthur Ralfs wrote: > ... @@ -38771,38 +34118,21 @@ http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2005-05/msg00228.html )lisp result -Regards, -Bill Page - - - \start Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:34:38 -0700 From: Arthur Ralfs -Subject: Re: Interpreter commands from Spad? To: list -Message-id: <46D5A01E.2060302@shaw.ca> -MIME-version: 1.0 - +Subject: Re: Interpreter commands from Spad? Thanks for the suggestions from Bill and Martin. I hope to have some time to look at this problem later today. -Arthur - - - \start Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:01:59 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Arthur Ralfs Subject: Re: Interpreter commands from Spad? - - <46D5A01E.2060302@shaw.ca> -Cc: list - -Arthur, If you are interested in the LaTeX output from the Axiom interpreter you will need to re-direct a different stream. I.e. $texOutputStream @@ -38847,15 +34177,10 @@ On 8/29/07, Arthur Ralfs wrote: > Thanks for the suggestions from Bill and Martin. > I hope to have some time to look at this problem > later today. -> -> Arthur -> - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:23:25 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20070811.01.tpd.patch applied to silver @@ -38873,7 +34198,7 @@ index 7cbe49b..e3d84c9 100644 +20070810 acr src/interp/i-output.boot added mathml patch +20070810 acr scr/interp/setvars.boot add mathml patch +20070810 acr scr/interp/setvart.boot add mathml patch -+20070810 acr Arthur C. Ralfs ++20070810 acr Arthur Ralfs 20070810 tpd src/interp/metameta.lisp removed (unused) 20070810 tpd src/interp/ccl-depsys.lsp remove metameta 20070810 tpd src/interp/parsing.lisp remove metameta @@ -40996,11 +36321,9 @@ index 92e8825..bfa2f14 100644 \begin{verbatim} ----------------------- The openmath Option ------------------------ - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:47:45 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20070824.01.tpd.patch applied to silver @@ -45748,14 +41071,14 @@ index d773bb6..1c534e9 100644 +Perhaps we should have included a species field. + + al."smokie" := [200,"female"]$Data -+ [monthsOld=200, gender= "female"] ++ [monthsOld0, gender= "female"] + Type: Record(monthsOld: Integer,gender: String) + +Now look at what is in the association list. Note that the last-added +(key, entry) pair is at the beginning of the list. + + al -+ table("smokie" = [monthsOld=200, gender= "female"], ++ table("smokie" = [monthsOld0, gender= "female"], + "katie" = [monthsOld=24, gender= "female"], + "judith" = [monthsOld=366, gender= "female"], + "bob" = [monthsOld=407, gender= "male"]) @@ -47359,11 +42682,9 @@ index 34850f2..6a8e7e0 100644 %.input: ${IN}/%.input.pamphlet - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:37:46 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20070819.01.tpd.patch applied to silver diff --git a/book/2007-09.txt b/book/2007-09.txt index 5df741d..67aafa5 100644 --- a/book/2007-09.txt +++ b/book/2007-09.txt @@ -1,9 +1,7 @@ \start Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 14:39:26 -0400 From: Bill Page -To: "Stephen Watt" Stephen Watt, aldor-l -Cc: sage-devel@googlegroups.com, list, - open-axiom-devel@lists.sf.net, fricas-devel@googlegroups.com +To: Stephen Watt Subject: Aldor source code release! Dear Aldor and Axiom developers and users; @@ -38,21 +36,12 @@ To obtain a full source tree do: svn co http://aquarium.aldor.csd.uwo.ca/svn/trunk --------- - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start +Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 23:36:02 +0200 From: Gregory Vanuxem To: Bill Page -Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 23:36:02 +0200 -Cc: Stephen Watt, fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, - sage-devel@googlegroups.com, aldor-l , - open-axiom-devel@lists.sf.net, list Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Aldor source code release! +Cc: Stephen Watt Many thanks. @@ -60,17 +49,17 @@ Greg Le samedi 01 septembre 2007 =E0 14:39 -0400, Bill Page a =E9crit : > Dear Aldor and Axiom developers and users; ->=20 +> > I would like to congratulate Stephen Watt and the team at aldor.org > for achieving their goal of releasing Aldor in source code form as > planned! ->=20 +> > See: http://www.aldor.org ->=20 +> > ------- ->=20 +> > Source Release ->=20 +> > Aldor sources are now available for non-commercial purposes, under the > Aldor Public License Version 2.0: > http://www.aldor.org/AldorPublicLicense2_0.html . The sources may be @@ -80,41 +69,23 @@ Le samedi 01 septembre 2007 =E0 14:39 -0400, Bill Page a =E9crit : > page: http://www.aldor.org/wiki/index.php/Aldor_Documentation . > Applications requiring other licensing terms should contact 'proposals > at aldor.org'. ->=20 +> > ... ->=20 +> > Public Subversion Repository ->=20 +> > http://aquarium.aldor.csd.uwo.ca/svn/trunk ->=20 +> > To obtain a full source tree do: ->=20 +> > svn co http://aquarium.aldor.csd.uwo.ca/svn/trunk ->=20 -> -------- ->=20 -> Regards, -> Bill Page. ->=20 -> _______________________________________________ -> Aldor-l mailing list -> Aldor-l@aldor.org -> http://aldor.org/mailman/listinfo/aldor-l_aldor.org ->=20 - - - - \start Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 08:48:31 +1000 From: Alasdair McAndrew To: list - boundary="----=_Part_1242_5941675.1188686911319" Subject: A student comment -------=_Part_1242_5941675.1188686911319 - As some of you may know, this semester I am using Axiom in a cryptography subject. I have asked my students to comment briefly on what they like/dislike about it. Some like it, and find it "intuitive", while others @@ -130,27 +101,10 @@ This student also complained about the lack of a native Mac version. Just thought you'd like to know. -cheers, -Alasdair - -------=_Part_1242_5941675.1188686911319 - -As some of you may know, this semester I am using Axiom in a cryptography subject.  I have asked my students to comment briefly on what they like/dislike about it.  Some like it, and find it "intuitive", while others dislike it.  One comment in particular was: -

"The lack of Windows like interface make this package look and feel 
-second rate.
-The need to use )command is annoying in that the command line is 
-already parsed to handle the maths, the lack of command parsing shows 
-a lack of interest in an interface."

This student also complained about the lack of a native Mac version.

Just thought you'd like to know.

cheers,
Alasdair
- -------=_Part_1242_5941675.1188686911319-- - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 19:12:01 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Alasdair McAndrew -Cc: list Subject: A student comment Alasdair, @@ -191,16 +145,10 @@ Developing open source requires 2 things: source code and time. The student has both. Ask him to let me know when he has the Mac version working. -Tim - - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 19:17:09 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Alasdair McAndrew -Cc: list Subject: Algebra documentation I have recently uploaded )help files to document the following algebra: @@ -241,17 +189,11 @@ You can query any of these using either the full name or the abbreviation: There is more algebra documentation to follow at the end of the next testing cycle. -Tim - - - - \start Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 20:31:08 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Alasdair McAndrew Subject: Re: A student comment -Cc: list Hi Alasdair, @@ -272,28 +214,12 @@ On 9/1/07, Alasdair McAndrew wrote: > This student also complained about the lack of a native Mac version. > > Just thought you'd like to know. -> -> cheers, -> Alasdair -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> -> -Regards, - -Alfredo - - \start +Date: 01 Sep 2007 19:38:44 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Alasdair McAndrew Subject: Re: A student comment -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 01 Sep 2007 19:38:44 -0500 -Cc: list Alasdair McAndrew writes: @@ -319,18 +245,11 @@ well. | Just thought you'd like to know. -Thanks for the feedback. - --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:14:46 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Alasdair McAndrew Subject: Re: A student comment -Cc: list On 9/1/07, Alasdair McAndrew wrote: > As some of you may know, this semester I am using Axiom in a @@ -391,20 +310,11 @@ rather unlikely to me that cryptography students will be motivated to solve these sort problems with the Axiom user interface when there are so many other alternatives available. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 21:03:24 -0700 From: Ed Borasky To: list Subject: Re: A student comment - - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- -Hash: SHA1 Bill Page wrote: > For a better user interface experience I would recommend using Axiom @@ -437,25 +347,11 @@ symbolic calculator if it had the speed and the memory. It can certainly be done in Axiom or Maxima or Yacas (or Derive) -- about the only requirement I have beyond the basics is Laplace transforms. ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFG2jYM8fKMegVjSM8RAoPcAJ9Kr5a+vuB5uuYx2Rhg3Q/sLbVhZACgzTnT -kadWq+6/iAzN/K0RR1kW2fU= -=CWNK ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - - - \start Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 22:02:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp +To: Bill Page, Alasdair McAndrew Subject: Re: A student comment -To: Bill Page, - Alasdair McAndrew -Cc: list - --- Bill Page wrote: @@ -569,21 +465,10 @@ generalized functions) for the treatment of Dirac Deltas in advanced physics. There are undoubtedly others, and with hard work that's where Axiom will someday begin to show its real strength. -Cheers, -CY - - - ____________________________________________________________________________________ -Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 - - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 06:17:45 -0500 -To: "C. Frangos" Constantine Frangos -Cc: list +From: Tim Daly +To: Constantine Frangos Subject: Installing axiom on suse linux 10.2 (copied to the axiom mailing list to preserve the information) @@ -629,16 +514,10 @@ To use this image do: Let me know if there are any other problems. -Tim - - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 06:31:34 -0500 -To: "C Frangos" Constantine Frangos -Cc: list +From: Tim Daly +To: Constantine Frangos Subject: Installing axiom on suse linux 10.2 (typo) There is a minor typo in the location of the image: @@ -649,17 +528,10 @@ There is a minor typo in the location of the image: ^^^^^ http://daly.axiom-developer.org/axiom-200709-fedora5.tgz -Tim - - - - \start Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:12:56 -0400 From: Bill Page -To: aldor-l -Cc: fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, open-axiom-devel@lists.sf.net, - list +To: list Subject: Axiom for Aldor or Aldor for Axiom? Dear Aldorados, @@ -724,18 +596,11 @@ project to pursue similar goals as the original Axiom developers. Does this include the goal of re-implementing (all or some part of) the Axiom library in Aldor? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start +Date: 03 Sep 2007 21:43:53 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Axiom for Aldor or Aldor for Axiom? -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 03 Sep 2007 21:43:53 -0500 -Cc: fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, open-axiom-devel@lists.sf.net, - list, aldor-l Bill Page writes: @@ -787,18 +652,11 @@ rewrite of OpenAxiom's algebra in Aldor. One thing at the time :-) I would like, first, to improve inter-operability with Aldor libraries from within Axiom (and vice versa) through ISA like FOAM. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:22:31 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Axiom for Aldor or Aldor for Axiom? - <878x7nrvyu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -Cc: fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, open-axiom-devel@lists.sf.net, - list, aldor-l On 03 Sep 2007 21:43:53 -0500, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > ... @@ -821,21 +679,11 @@ Are you aware that currently Aldor works within Axiom by compiling to Lisp? How do you see FOAM being involved? Could you expand a little on this comment? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:31:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis -To: fricas-devel@googlegroups.com -Subject: Re: [fricas-devel] Re: Axiom for Aldor or Aldor - for Axiom? - <878x7nrvyu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - -Cc: list, open-axiom-devel@lists.sf.net, - aldor-l +To: list +Subject: Re: [fricas-devel] Re: Axiom for Aldor or Aldor for Axiom? On Mon, 3 Sep 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -860,21 +708,12 @@ know there is a documentation; but I'm not sure how current it is and whether it provides me with all I need. I briefly discussed the documentation issue with Stephen when I was in London last July. - --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:39:10 -0400 From: Stephen Watt To: Bill Page Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Axiom for Aldor or Aldor for Axiom? - <878x7nrvyu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - -Cc: list, fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, - open-axiom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, - aldor-l , Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 11:22:31PM -0400, Bill Page wrote: > ... @@ -889,17 +728,10 @@ FOAM is designed to have only operations that are efficient both in Lisp and in a machine code-only environment. (So, for example, there is no way to take an address of something.) --- Stephen - - - \start -To: Bill Page, fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, - list, - open-axiom-devel@lists.sf.net, aldor-l -From: Martin Rubey Date: 04 Sep 2007 09:20:59 +0200 -Cc: +From: Martin Rubey +To: Bill Page Subject: umlaut in Guess - mailing list for algebra Sorry Bill for replying late. At least communication became a lot more @@ -921,20 +753,11 @@ considering to release newer versions GPL only. (Because of the forks) Maybe we could agree on having at least only one mailing list for the algebra related stuff. Maybe aldor-l or axiom-math? -Martin - - - - \start Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:05:45 -0400 From: Bill Page -To: fricas-devel@googlegroups.com -Cc: Bill Page, - list, - open-axiom-devel@lists.sf.net, aldor-l -Subject: Re: [fricas-devel] umlaut in Guess - mailing list - for algebra +To: list +Subject: Re: [fricas-devel] umlaut in Guess - mailing list for algebra On 04 Sep 2007 09:20:59 +0200, Martin Rubey wrote: > @@ -978,22 +801,12 @@ wishes while continuing to develop Axiom in different directions. Sooner or later we will have to focus on only one fork of Axiom or another... :-( -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:14:54 -0400 From: Bill Page -To: "Stephen Watt" Stephen Watt +To: Stephen Watt Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Axiom for Aldor or Aldor for Axiom? - <878x7nrvyu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - - <20070904033910.GD12628@ptibonum.scl.csd.uwo.ca> -Cc: list, fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, - open-axiom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, - aldor-l , Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On 9/3/07, Stephen Watt wrote: > On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 11:22:31PM -0400, Bill Page wrote: @@ -1067,14 +880,7 @@ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 09:26:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Axiom for Aldor or Aldor for Axiom? - <878x7nrvyu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - - <20070904033910.GD12628@ptibonum.scl.csd.uwo.ca> - -Cc: Stephen Watt, - list, - fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, open-axiom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, - aldor-l +Cc: Stephen Watt On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -1111,20 +917,11 @@ with Stephen, he (jokingly) refered to legendary Unix manpages that appear impenetrable to the novice, and crystal clear to the experts who already know their contents :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Bill Page - -From: Martin Rubey Date: 04 Sep 2007 16:32:12 +0200 -Cc: Bill Page, fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, - open-axiom-devel@lists.sf.net, - list, aldor-l -Subject: Re: [open-axiom-devel] [fricas-devel] umlaut in - Guess - mailing list for algebra +From: Martin Rubey +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: [open-axiom-devel] [fricas-devel] umlaut in Guess - mailing list for algebra Bill Page writes: @@ -1170,24 +967,12 @@ different goals and ways to achieve them, but discussion on only one place. But maybe we could at least concentrate the algebra discussion at one place. -Martin - - - - \start Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:34:08 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Axiom for Aldor or Aldor for Axiom? - <878x7nrvyu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - - <20070904033910.GD12628@ptibonum.scl.csd.uwo.ca> - -Cc: Stephen Watt, fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, - aldor-l , Laurentiu Dragan, - list, - open-axiom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net +Cc: Stephen Watt, Laurentiu Dragan On 9/4/07, Bill Page wrote: > ... @@ -1219,25 +1004,12 @@ make this document available for download from the Aldor Wiki. If an electronic format (e.g. dvi, pdf) is not available than even a scanned format would be useful. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:39:35 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Axiom for Aldor or Aldor for Axiom? - <878x7nrvyu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - - <20070904033910.GD12628@ptibonum.scl.csd.uwo.ca> - - -Cc: Stephen Watt, - list, - fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, open-axiom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, - aldor-l +Cc: Stephen Watt On 9/4/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -1255,26 +1027,12 @@ Having Spad generate FOAM code seems like a rather radical (and interesting!) idea. How practical do you think it might be to make such deep changes to Spad? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 09:45:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Axiom for Aldor or Aldor for Axiom? - <878x7nrvyu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - - <20070904033910.GD12628@ptibonum.scl.csd.uwo.ca> - - - -Cc: Stephen Watt, - list, - fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, open-axiom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, - aldor-l +Cc: Stephen Watt On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -1298,20 +1056,11 @@ At the moment, I don't know. But, the existing compiler can already generates Lisp FOAM for some codes. I suspect that was the work of Peter Broadbery -- anyone to concur? --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 04 Sep 2007 09:53:18 -0500 To: Bill Page - From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 04 Sep 2007 09:53:18 -0500 -Cc: Bill Page, fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, - open-axiom-devel@lists.sf.net, - list, aldor-l -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [fricas-devel] umlaut in Guess - - mailing list for algebra +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [fricas-devel] umlaut in Guess - mailing list for algebra Bill Page writes: @@ -1330,21 +1079,11 @@ wishes or likes. Authors who believe their work might be of value to others and would like to get them included in OpenAxiom are very much welcome. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:32:06 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis - - <87myw2pjmp.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -Cc: Bill Page, fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, - open-axiom-devel@lists.sf.net, - list, aldor-l -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [fricas-devel] umlaut in Guess - - mailing list for algebra +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [fricas-devel] umlaut in Guess - mailing list for algebra On 04 Sep 2007 09:53:18 -0500, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Bill Page writes: @@ -1376,21 +1115,11 @@ Apparently in order to use a package like GUESS in the same manner as if it had been installed during the Axiom build, it would be necessary to at least update the database files. How can we do this? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:13:12 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Bill Page - -Cc: Bill Page, fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, - open-axiom-devel@lists.sf.net, - list, aldor-l -Subject: Re: [open-axiom-devel] [fricas-devel] umlaut in - Guess - mailing list for algebra +Subject: Re: [open-axiom-devel] [fricas-devel] umlaut in Guess - mailing list for algebra Hi Bill, @@ -1399,23 +1128,12 @@ Hi Bill, But I was under the assumption that modified BSD is compatible with GPL. -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - \start Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:16:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis -To: fricas-devel@googlegroups.com - - -Cc: Bill Page, - list, - open-axiom-devel@lists.sf.net, aldor-l -Subject: Re: [fricas-devel] Re: [open-axiom-devel] - [fricas-devel] umlaut in Guess - mailing list for algebra +To: list +Subject: umlaut in Guess - mailing list for algebra +Cc: Bill Page On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Alfredo Portes wrote: @@ -1430,21 +1148,11 @@ The issue, for someone packaging the whole stuff, is what the license of the whole system is, once it has been `infected' by updating the databases and other derivative information. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:12:12 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes - - -Cc: Bill Page, fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, - open-axiom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, - list, aldor-l -Subject: Re: [open-axiom-devel] [fricas-devel] umlaut in - Guess - mailing list for algebra +Subject: umlaut in Guess - mailing list for algebra On 9/4/07, Alfredo Portes wrote: > Bill Page asked: @@ -1492,25 +1200,12 @@ xgcl). So maybe this is not such a big deal when all is said and done. I am sorry to be so pedantic and possibly annoying to some people but I hope that what I am saying makes sense. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:48:35 -0400 From: Laurentiu Dragan To: Bill Page Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Axiom for Aldor or Aldor for Axiom? - <878x7nrvyu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - - <20070904033910.GD12628@ptibonum.scl.csd.uwo.ca> - - -Cc: Stephen Watt, fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, - aldor-l , Gabriel Dos Reis, - list, - open-axiom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net +Cc: Stephen Watt, Gabriel Dos Reis Bill Page wrote: > This reminds me to mention that the issue of FOAM and other Aldor @@ -1528,26 +1223,12 @@ Bill Page wrote: Yes, I'll dig it up and put in on the web. The original FOAM documentation is already published. --- -Laurentiu - - - \start Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:18:04 -0400 From: Bill Page -To: "Laurentiu Dragan" Laurentiu Dragan +To: Laurentiu Dragan Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Axiom for Aldor or Aldor for Axiom? - <878x7nrvyu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - - <20070904033910.GD12628@ptibonum.scl.csd.uwo.ca> - - - <46DDB693.8050601@uwo.ca> -Cc: Stephen Watt, fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, - aldor-l , Gabriel Dos Reis, - list, - open-axiom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net +Cc: Stephen Watt, Gabriel Dos Reis On 9/4/07, Laurentiu Dragan wrote: > Bill Page wrote: @@ -1562,20 +1243,12 @@ On 9/4/07, Laurentiu Dragan wrote: Excellent. Thanks, Laurentiu. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -To: fricas-devel@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:55:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: Bill Page, - list, - open-axiom-devel@lists.sf.net, aldor-l -Subject: Re: [fricas-devel] umlaut in Guess - mailing list - for algebra +To: list +Subject: Re: [fricas-devel] umlaut in Guess - mailing list for algebra +Cc: Bill Page Martin Rubey wrote: > @@ -1602,14 +1275,6 @@ Personally, I belive that clisp insistence on single file encoding is really a bug (there should be a way to say within a program that we want to read a file using 8-bit encoding). - - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:28:48 +0200 From: Ondrej Certik @@ -1638,22 +1303,11 @@ archaic to me as well. But in any case, Axiom developers should try to motivate students to work on it, not discouraging them by telling them they are stupid or annoying. -Ondrej - - - \start Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:42:01 -0700 From: Ed Borasky -To: fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, open-axiom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, - list, aldor-l -Subject: re: [open-axiom-devel] [fricas-devel] umlaut - in Guess - mailing list for algebra - -Cc: - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- -Hash: SHA1 +To: list +Subject: re: [open-axiom-devel] [fricas-devel] umlaut in Guess - mailing list for algebra Bill Page wrote: > One of the defining characteristics of GPL is that *if* you @@ -1699,22 +1353,11 @@ on the planet. I'll take Ruby, Perl and Python over Visual Basic for scripting *even* on a Windows platform! For some special cases, there are compilers better than GCC, but in the *general* case I don't think there's anything that can touch it. ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFG3d858fKMegVjSM8RAhSQAKCXwopAyjxqPDA0tScmY0k+WXtSbwCfRiX6 -VVfLQ4ARvxBUiDn5HB1gZhI= -=Wbo9 ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:18:46 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Ondrej Certik -Cc: list Subject: A student comment > I am a student too and I don't think I have a lack of interest in @@ -1775,13 +1418,10 @@ the opinion, the student has the itch. I await the patch. Tim, the newly cynical curmudgeon. - - \start Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:44:56 +0200 From: Ondrej Certik To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: A student comment > I started open source programming in the late 90s and was quite @@ -1852,15 +1492,10 @@ new users of any software to experience a pleasant surprise, not to be annoyed. With the "send a patch or shut up" attitude, you will never know, what exactly your users don't like on it. -Ondrej - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:33:02 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Ondrej Certik -Cc: list Subject: A student comment Ondrej, @@ -1891,23 +1526,12 @@ hyperdoc to some other platform (e.g. Firefox). Frankly though, "its archaic" is a worthless, effortless, bit of noise. -Tim - - - - - - - \start Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:53:41 -0700 From: Ed Borasky To: list Subject: Re: A student comment ------BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- -Hash: SHA1 - Tim Daly wrote: > Axiom has a goal of a new, non-archaic user interface called Crystal. > I've spent a fair amount of time researching the subject and creating @@ -1932,26 +1556,12 @@ enough that I can solve problems with it. I'm strictly a user, though -- I don't have the bandwidth to help with construction of anything except solutions for my own problems, and of course, bug reports. ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFG3gwl8fKMegVjSM8RAs8MAJ0cIceoT76jZaSosBptQAIL6vqqjgCgv4xC -0PnB8a5V6EKy5T3A5VjVJ9g= -=2xXJ ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:09:38 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Ed Borasky -Cc: list Subject: Crystal -Ed, - I have some documentation on Crystal although it hasn't been brought up to date with my latest experiments. @@ -2034,19 +1644,12 @@ There you can see the crystal idea mentioned, including KROPS, IS, etc. When I recover the Axiom website I'll put up documentation that describes the current state of the research. -Tim - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:05:33 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Ed Borasky -Cc: list Subject: Crystal -Ed, - Even if you are "only a user" it would be useful to get output of various experiements you perform. These are useful for three purposes: they can be used to document operations from domains, @@ -2063,16 +1666,10 @@ see chapters 8 and 9). It doesn't have to be fancy. It's just easier to capture the steps as you work than to create them from nothing without a motivating problem. -Tim - - - - \start -From: Themos Tsikas Themos Tsikas -To: list Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:08:13 +0000 - charset="iso-8859-1" +From: Themos Tsikas +To: list Subject: Re: A student comment (Ondrej Certik) > Typing help is ambiguous if you first type: @@ -2109,32 +1706,12 @@ Value = "Tuesday July 17, 2007 at 14:02:22 " >> System error: Console interrupt. - -________________________________________________________________________ -The Numerical Algorithms Group Ltd is a company registered in England -and Wales with company number 1249803. The registered office is: -Wilkinson House, Jordan Hill Road, Oxford OX2 8DR, United Kingdom. - -This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star. The service is -powered by MessageLabs. -________________________________________________________________________ - - - \start Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:12:49 +0200 -To: Bill Page, - Alfredo Portes +To: Bill Page, Alfredo Portes From: Christian Aistleitner - - - -Cc: Bill Page, fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, - aldor-l , open-axiom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, - list -Subject: APL2 is evil [was: Re: [Aldor-l] - [open-axiom-devel] [fricas-devel] umlaut in Guess - mailing - list for algebra] +Subject: APL2 is evil +Cc: Bill Page Hello, @@ -2192,17 +1769,12 @@ And I do not think ASO would do such things. But why does ASO force contributers to grant ASO such rights, if they do not inted to use them once in a while? -Kind regards, -Christian - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 05:38:35 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Themos Tsikas -Cc: list Subject: help function +Cc: list Themos, @@ -2229,16 +1801,10 @@ To use it do: -> )help Segment -> )help SEG -Tim - - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:32:55 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Themos Tsikas -Cc: list Subject: help function Themos, @@ -2275,18 +1841,11 @@ sources and then planning to work on a regular form for help files. The functions mentioned in help files are also run at build time to regression test the results to check for breakage. -Tim - - - - \start +Date: 05 Sep 2007 07:20:24 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Themos Tsikas Subject: re: A student comment (Ondrej Certik) - <200709050808.13864.Themos Tsikas> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 05 Sep 2007 07:20:24 -0500 -Cc: list Themos Tsikas Themos Tsikas writes: @@ -2327,18 +1886,12 @@ Themos Tsikas Themos Tsikas writes: Wonderful! :-) -Thanks a lot Thomas, - --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 05 Sep 2007 07:23:21 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: help function -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 05 Sep 2007 07:23:21 -0500 -Cc: Themos Tsikas, list +Cc: Themos Tsikas, Tim Daly writes: @@ -2353,17 +1906,12 @@ You made a statement of why ')help' is prefered over 'help'. Thomas just showed a case demaonstrating that that reason is at best a fallacy (my term). --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 05 Sep 2007 14:30:45 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: help function - <878x7lti6e.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 05 Sep 2007 14:30:45 +0200 -Cc: Themos Tsikas, list +Cc: Themos Tsikas Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -2396,19 +1944,12 @@ does it.) But I do believe that a separate "system command syntax" is a very good idea. At least, it appears to me so in everyday usage - and I use axiom more as a mathematician, and rather seldom as a programmer. -Martin - - - - \start Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:35:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: help function - <878x7lti6e.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qtzq9wayy.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: Themos Tsikas, list +Cc: Themos Tsikas On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -2444,19 +1985,12 @@ objective, but its logic is flawed. I don't see '#' more confusing than ')' -- but maybe your point is that I'm not a human. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 05 Sep 2007 14:48:50 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: help function - <878x7lti6e.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qtzq9wayy.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 05 Sep 2007 14:48:50 +0200 -Cc: Themos Tsikas, list +Cc: Themos Tsikas Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -2479,21 +2013,12 @@ setRest!: (%, %) -> %; Of course, given the context of the discussion, the error is not hard to spot. But at least I ran into it several times. -Martin - - - - \start Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:50:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: help function - <878x7lti6e.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qtzq9wayy.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9qbqchcm6l.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: Themos Tsikas, list +Cc: Themos Tsikas On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -2507,15 +2032,11 @@ On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Martin Rubey wrote: I'm very much interested in the chain of logical inferences that led to that conclusion. --- Gaby - - - \start -Subject: Re: help function -To: list Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:57:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list +Subject: Re: help function Martin Rubey wrote: > I also believe that ")help" is much(!) better than "help". I believe that it @@ -2543,23 +2064,12 @@ are subtle differences between input taken from standard input, input read via read command and Shoe (old Boot and Spad use the same handler so they should be compatible). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start +Date: 05 Sep 2007 14:58:43 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: help function - <878x7lti6e.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qtzq9wayy.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9qbqchcm6l.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 05 Sep 2007 14:58:43 +0200 -Cc: Themos Tsikas, list +Cc: Themos Tsikas Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -2576,23 +2086,12 @@ Of course, using noweb this is more likely to happen than without. I'm sorry about being too quick and in error at times, -Martin - - - - \start Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:10:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: help function - <878x7lti6e.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qtzq9wayy.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9qbqchcm6l.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9qbqch6zgc.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: Themos Tsikas, list +Cc: Themos Tsikas On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -2617,15 +2116,10 @@ just plain peculiar to me; and I almost never make some `common' mistakes. I believe we should not underestimate the subjective, psychological, part of each programmer in its programming habits. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:24:08 +0000 From: Themos Tsikas Themos Tsikas To: list -Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:24:08 +0000 - charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: Re: help function (Waldek Hebisch) I take the evolutionary approach: if it was A Good Idea it would have been @@ -2653,24 +2147,11 @@ Themos Tsikas > input, input read via read command and Shoe (old Boot and > Spad use the same handler so they should be compatible). -________________________________________________________________________ -The Numerical Algorithms Group Ltd is a company registered in England -and Wales with company number 1249803. The registered office is: -Wilkinson House, Jordan Hill Road, Oxford OX2 8DR, United Kingdom. - -This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star. The service is -powered by MessageLabs. -________________________________________________________________________ - - - \start +Date: 05 Sep 2007 08:34:42 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Themos Tsikas Subject: re: help function (Waldek Hebisch) - <200709051324.08374.Themos Tsikas> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 05 Sep 2007 08:34:42 -0500 -Cc: list Themos Tsikas Themos Tsikas writes: @@ -2680,17 +2161,11 @@ Themos Tsikas Themos Tsikas writes: :-) :-) You made my day. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 05 Sep 2007 15:31:37 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Themos Tsikas Subject: re: help function (Waldek Hebisch) - <200709051324.08374.Themos Tsikas> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 05 Sep 2007 15:31:37 +0200 -Cc: list Themos Tsikas Themos Tsikas writes: @@ -2702,19 +2177,12 @@ Is this the evolutionary approach, or is it just a definition of "good idea"? I could imagine that just nobody in the surviving environments knew about the idea. -Martin - - - - \start +Date: 05 Sep 2007 08:57:01 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: help function (Waldek Hebisch) - <200709051324.08374.Themos Tsikas> - <9qtzq99r2e.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 05 Sep 2007 08:57:01 -0500 -Cc: Themos Tsikas, list +Cc: Themos Tsikas Martin Rubey writes: @@ -2731,33 +2199,20 @@ Martin Rubey writes: The idea of using `close paren' or that of separating system commands in separate name space? --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:56:26 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Ed Borasky -Cc: list Subject: bug #381 Ok. The axiom command is now generated and I clearly missed a change. I'll fix it in the next patch. -Tim - - - \start +Date: 05 Sep 2007 16:14:59 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: help function (Waldek Hebisch) - <200709051324.08374.Themos Tsikas> - <9qtzq99r2e.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <87sl5tqkpe.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 05 Sep 2007 16:14:59 +0200 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -2802,21 +2257,11 @@ I didn't see this bug report, could you send me a reference, please. Do you think using another character to distinguish name spaces would be better suited? Or would you advocate getting rid of the distinction alltogether? -Martin - - - - \start Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:26:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: help function (Waldek Hebisch) - <200709051324.08374.Themos Tsikas> - <9qtzq99r2e.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <87sl5tqkpe.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qodgh42sc.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -2887,19 +2332,12 @@ On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Martin Rubey wrote: Perhaps you should use "@" to indicate the required return type, or "$" to specify which version of the function you need. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:36:16 -0700 From: Ed Borasky To: list Subject: Re: help function ------BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- -Hash: SHA1 - Waldek Hebisch wrote: > When I began to use Axiom closing parenthesis looked pointless and > obscure to me. Now I can see reasons for using closing parenthesis @@ -2925,28 +2363,11 @@ even date back before the 029 keypunch became widespread. Now, can we argue about something else? )smiley ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFG3r7g8fKMegVjSM8RAhQlAJ0YBIWacmSTHIN6MzBE1ProUZPi8gCfcnKT -7+hlbwKDdbRCFNSR36QQbFU= -=eOPf ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - - - \start +Date: 05 Sep 2007 16:48:57 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: help function (Waldek Hebisch) - <200709051324.08374.Themos Tsikas> - <9qtzq99r2e.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <87sl5tqkpe.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qodgh42sc.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 05 Sep 2007 16:48:57 +0200 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -3014,23 +2435,11 @@ Interesting. I'd consider these as bugs. (7) x Type: Polynomial Integer -Martin - - - - \start Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:57:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: help function (Waldek Hebisch) - <200709051324.08374.Themos Tsikas> - <9qtzq99r2e.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <87sl5tqkpe.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qodgh42sc.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9qbqchrwva.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -3071,16 +2480,12 @@ The character ")" can also start an Axiom identifier if is it escaped. From there, I don't see how the choice of ")" is natural. Would you mind clarifying the naturalness? --- Gaby - - - \start -Subject: re: help function (Waldek Hebisch) -To: Martin Rubey Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:15:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: re: help function (Waldek Hebisch) +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Martin Rubey wrote: > Waldek wrote: @@ -3129,18 +2534,11 @@ Drawback is that one have to give string as an argument (I would guess that having help as system command was at least partially motivated by need to have unevaluated argument). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:20:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: re: help function (Waldek Hebisch) -Cc: list On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Waldek Hebisch wrote: @@ -3148,25 +2546,12 @@ On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Waldek Hebisch wrote: Go GUI. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:11:24 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Christian Aistleitner - - - - -Cc: Stephen Watt, fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, - aldor-l , Bill Page, - open-axiom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, - list -Subject: Re: APL2 is evil [was: Re: [Aldor-l] - [open-axiom-devel] [fricas-devel] umlaut in Guess - mailing - list for algebra] +Subject: Re: APL2 is evil +Cc: Stephen Watt On 9/5/07, Christian Aistleitner wrote: > ... @@ -3193,27 +2578,12 @@ If issues and rights such as these were specifically addressed in published document that is intended to clarify the application of APL2, would that satisfy some or all of your concerns? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:18:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: fricas-devel@googlegroups.com - - - - - -Cc: Stephen Watt, Christian Aistleitner, - aldor-l , Bill Page, - open-axiom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, - list Subject: Re: [fricas-devel] Re: APL2 is evil [was: Re: - [Aldor-l] [open-axiom-devel] - [fricas-devel] umlaut in Guess - mailing list for algebra] +Cc: Stephen Watt, Christian Aistleitner, Bill Page On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Bill Page wrote: @@ -3223,16 +2593,12 @@ On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Bill Page wrote: That would clarify things for many people -- and probably save debates :-) --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 05 Sep 2007 20:21:34 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: re: help function (Waldek Hebisch) -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 05 Sep 2007 20:21:34 +0200 -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -3266,16 +2632,10 @@ the details. I think the main problem is that you cannot easily get the name of a domain. There is name(%)$Trace, but I cannot remember right now how reliable that is. -Martin - - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:34:42 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Franz Huber -Cc: list Subject: SpadHelp files >There is only one small problem since your latest release from @@ -3293,19 +2653,11 @@ I'm pondering a solution. It's on the "queued" list of changes for help. Unfortunately once I start hacking the code the end result won't work for old systems. -Tim - - - \start +Date: 05 Sep 2007 22:08:18 +0200 +From: Francois Maltey To: list Subject: Re: help function - <878x7lti6e.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qtzq9wayy.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Francois Maltey -Date: 05 Sep 2007 22:08:18 +0200 - -Hello * ! ... > I also believe that ")help" is much(!) better than "help". I believe that it @@ -3326,18 +2678,11 @@ but its sense is (for me) a local declaration as local variable or so. Have a nice day ! -F. - - - \start +Date: 06 Sep 2007 08:29:06 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Francois Maltey Subject: Re: help function - <878x7lti6e.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <9qtzq9wayy.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> <87ps0who3x.fsf@nerim.fr> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 06 Sep 2007 08:29:06 +0200 -Cc: list Francois Maltey writes: @@ -3385,29 +2730,12 @@ f(arg: DomA): DomB == And of course, in input files ")se fu ca" just works. -Martin - - - - \start Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 11:41:53 +0200 -To: Bill Page From: Christian Aistleitner - - - - - -Cc: Stephen Watt, fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, - aldor-l , Bill Page, - open-axiom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, - list +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: APL2 is evil [was: Re: [Aldor-l] - [open-axiom-devel] [fricas-devel] umlaut in Guess - mailing - list for algebra] - -Hello, +Cc: Stephen Watt On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:11:24 +0200, Bill Page wrote: @@ -3448,16 +2776,10 @@ restrictions away. If the ASO decides that the APL2 is ambiguous or too strict in some ways, they have to correct the APL2. Otherwise, the problem persists. -Kind regards, -Christian - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 18:25:14 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: 20070903.01.tpd.patch The following patch is a continuation of the algebra documentation effort. @@ -9375,13 +8697,10 @@ index 6a8e7e0..38b647a 100644 @ (cd ${MID} ; \ ${TANGLE} -t8 -R"algebra.regress" ${SRC}/algebra/Makefile.pamphlet \ - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:46:50 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: 20070905.01.tpd.patch This patch @@ -16041,38 +15360,25 @@ index 024164b..3275622 100644 @ - - - \start Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:00:55 +0000 (GMT) +From: Dave Feustel To: list -From: dfeustel@mindspring.com Subject: Axiom for 64-bit AMD OpenBSD 4.1 - -Hi! - I'm trying to configure Axiom for OpenBSD, but configure says it doesn't know how. OpenBSD is like FreeBSD and NetBSD, but with a few tweaks. Can Axiom be built on OpenBSD? -Thanks, -Dave Feustel --- - - - \start Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:03:42 -0400 From: Bill Page -To: dfeustel@mindspring.com +To: Dave Feustel Subject: Re: Axiom for 64-bit AMD OpenBSD 4.1 -Cc: list -On 9/5/07, dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote: +On 9/5/07, Dave Feustel Dave Feustel wrote: > > Hi! > @@ -16089,46 +15395,30 @@ On 9/5/07, dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote: For building Axiom on less common architectures I strongly recommend the FriCAS or OpenAxiom forks of the Axiom project. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:29:39 -0500 -To: "Dave Feustel" -Cc: list +From: Tim Daly +To: Dave Feustel Subject: Axiom for 64-bit AMD OpenBSD 4.1 When you check out axiom where does the build fail? Can you post a console log? Can you tell me where you got your OpenBSD distro? -Tim - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:46:33 -0500 -To: "Dave Feustel" -Cc: list +From: Tim Daly +To: Dave Feustel Subject: Axiom on OpenBSD Ok. I'll try to build a new machine with OpenBSD and see what it takes to generate an axiom build on it. There will be a bit of a lag as I'm traveling for work this week. -Tim - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:16:59 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: Mailing List Etiquette Bill, @@ -16142,15 +15432,10 @@ go to another project. Please do not do that again on this list. -Tim - - - \start Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:01:05 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette Tim, @@ -16177,17 +15462,11 @@ On 9/6/07, Tim Daly Tim Daly wrote: > go to another project. > > Please do not do that again on this list. -> -> Tim -> - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 23:48:20 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: 20070907.01.tpd.patch This patch fixes the 'make install' command. @@ -16233,13 +15512,10 @@ index f95a511..9973ef1 100644 @ \section{session} - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 20:07:14 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: William Sit -Cc: list Subject: bug #361 William, @@ -16309,9 +15585,6 @@ Starts dribbling to bug361.input (2007/9/8, 20:55:12). Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 21:40:01 -0400 From: William Sit To: Tim Daly -Message-id: <46E34EF1.AB5070D9@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 -Cc: list Subject: Re: bug #361 Thanks. In that case, the report file should be closed (assuming the integral is @@ -16381,24 +15654,11 @@ Tim Daly wrote: > Type: Union(Expression Integer,...) > (2) -> )spool --- -William Sit -Department of Mathematics..Email: William Sit -City College of New York................Tel: 212-650-5179 -New York, NY 10031, USA.................Fax: 212-862-0004 -Home page: .......http://scisun.sci.ccny.cuny.edu/~wyscc/ - - - - - \start Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 23:01:24 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: re: bug #361 - <46E34EF1.AB5070D9@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -Cc: list Tim, @@ -16438,18 +15698,11 @@ On 9/8/07, William Sit wrote: > > (1) -> integrate(1/(-3+v^3)*v/(-4*v^3)^(1/2),v) > > ... - - \start Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 01:22:11 -0400 From: William Sit -Subject: re: bug #361 To: Bill Page -Message-id: <46E38303.46E85EDC@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 - <46E34EF1.AB5070D9@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - -Cc: list +Subject: re: bug #361 Bill: @@ -16498,11 +15751,9 @@ Bill Page wrote: > > > ... - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 10:39:46 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20070907.02.tpd.patch @@ -16687,13 +15938,10 @@ index 38b647a..2123928 100644 @ \section{The Makefile} - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 18:34:01 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: 20070909.01.tpd.patch The file newton.spad contains the NEWTON domain which also exists @@ -16787,17 +16035,11 @@ index 6f588bc..0000000 -\end{thebibliography} -\end{document} - - \start Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 22:34:33 -0400 From: Bill Page To: William Sit Subject: re: bug #361 - <46E34EF1.AB5070D9@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - - <46E38303.46E85EDC@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -Cc: list On 9/9/07, William Sit wrote: > Bill: @@ -16807,13 +16049,10 @@ On 9/9/07, William Sit wrote: Thank you "cut-and-paste" :-) - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 20:53:12 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: 20070906.01.tpd.patch This patch adds help files and regression test files for these @@ -27082,18 +26321,11 @@ index 3275622..21925ae 100644 @ - - - \start Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:01:39 -0700 From: Ed Borasky To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: 20070909.01.tpd.patch -Cc: list - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- -Hash: SHA1 Tim Daly wrote: > The file newton.spad contains the NEWTON domain which also exists @@ -27127,59 +26359,33 @@ make: *** [all] Error 2 znmeb@DreamGate /home/data2/axiom/silver $ Could this be related to the patch?? ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFG5fcD8fKMegVjSM8RAjL6AKC1jMo0lAYKIDy4/Q1WPl/qp4h7HgCgq5Be -INIqshnjuWhdVtxYV1pVioU= -=aVpy ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:24:46 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Ed Borasky -Cc: list Subject: 20070909.01.tpd.patch failure Hmpf. I did a complete, clean build before checkin. I must have missed something in the svn command. I'm looking into it. Thanks. -Tim - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 00:10:59 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Ed Borasky -Cc: list Subject: 20070909.01.tpd.patch failure (fix) -Ed, - Apparently I forgot to do an 'svn add' for the Martin's files. The test build completes successfully here and runs fine. The problem you had should be fixed. -Tim - - - \start Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:37:40 -0700 From: Ed Borasky To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: 20070909.01.tpd.patch failure (fix) ------BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- -Hash: SHA1 - Tim Daly wrote: > Ed, > @@ -27194,22 +26400,11 @@ Sounds like a plan ... I just started the build, so it will be morning before I know if it worked. Meanwhile, when is the next scheduled "migration" of Silver to Golden? I'm trying to get Gentoo to replace the September 2005 tarball they have now with something newer. ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFG5je08fKMegVjSM8RAmeqAJ9ccBooLQDJ9f/KDdGT114xCK4f1wCeIEN/ -90EneWuJhULscyt39lh2K7k= -=P+gK ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 07:48:13 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Ed Borasky -Cc: list Subject: Gold > Sounds like a plan ... I just started the build so it will be morning @@ -27231,16 +26426,11 @@ files at build time. I'm also restructuring and documenting sman in src/sman/bookvol6. -Tim - - - \start Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 08:24:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp +To: Tim Daly, Ed Borasky Subject: Re: Gold -To: Tim Daly, "M. Edward \(Ed\) Borasky" Ed Borasky -Cc: list --- Tim Daly wrote: @@ -27261,22 +26451,10 @@ archive - axiom-4.9.1". I'd be glad to set something up and make up tarballs if you agree. -Cheers, -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. -http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:05:14 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Cliff Yapp -Cc: list Subject: Gold I'd prefer the binary numbering scheme to reflect the date @@ -27289,18 +26467,12 @@ We need to put up binary distros on the axiom websites setup and maintained once I get the new website task to the top of the list. -Tim - - - \start Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:55:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: Gold - --- Tim Daly wrote: > I'd prefer the binary numbering scheme to reflect the date @@ -27328,26 +26500,12 @@ didn't like the user interface before, this version has a new one so it's time to check again?" What if that happens between 10.1 and 10.2? -Cheers, -CY - - - ____________________________________________________________________________________ -Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. -http://tv.yahoo.com/ - - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:57:31 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Cliff Yapp -Cc: list Subject: Gold numbering scheme -Cliff, - We're not in the advertising business. We're doing long term science. It makes no difference if there are "major" improvements from version @@ -27362,18 +26520,11 @@ It's a number. It has no meaning except what we give it. The meaning of Axiom's version number is year/month/patch of source release. 2007 September's Gold would be axiom-7.9.0 -Tim - - - \start Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 22:11:01 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Gold numbering scheme -Cc: list - -Hi Tim, > Linus Torvolds commented that he is constantly asked when "version 3.0" > of linux will be released. He estimates that there will never be a @@ -27384,18 +26535,11 @@ for Linux to break API compatibility any time soon to justify the 3.0 jump. But the kernel keeps the xx.yy.zz religiously, in my opinion, as a sign of improvement. -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - \start Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:08:37 -0700 From: Ed Borasky To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Gold -Cc: list Tim Daly wrote: > I'd prefer the binary numbering scheme to reflect the date @@ -27418,14 +26562,11 @@ Gentoo, on the other hand, only needs a source tarball. :) Let me know when the source tarball is up and I'll update the Bugzilla entry with the URL. - - \start Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:10:56 -0700 From: Ed Borasky To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Gold numbering scheme -Cc: list Tim Daly wrote: > Cliff, @@ -27435,17 +26576,12 @@ Tim Daly wrote: Maybe so, but a little word of mouth can't hurt. Consider the Ubuntu phenomenon. ;) - - - \start Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 21:06:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: Gold numbering scheme - --- Tim Daly wrote: > Cliff, @@ -27472,28 +26608,12 @@ OK with me. OK. Considering Emacs is at version 22, 10.12.0 doesn't bother me. -Cheers, -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search -that gives answers, not web links. -http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC - - - \start Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:52:01 -0700 From: Arthur Ralfs To: list -Message-id: <46E8A5D1.1000206@shaw.ca> -MIME-version: 1.0 Subject: lisp -> spad question -Hello, - The following lisp seems to do what I want, i.e. capture stuff written to *standard-output* in a string, @@ -27527,18 +26647,11 @@ I get this: Can anybody tell me what's going on? -Thanks - -Arthur Ralfs - - - \start -Subject: Re: lisp -> spad question -To: Arthur Ralfs Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:14:51 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Arthur Ralfs +Subject: Re: lisp -> spad question Arthur Ralfs wrote: > Hello, @@ -27596,22 +26709,12 @@ it is better to write your function in Lisp -- Spad version is impossible to understand without knowing Lisp and a Lisper will still have trouble translating Spad syntax to Lisp. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:59:19 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: list Subject: Re: Two hyperdoc questions - boundary="----=_Part_39103_7054220.1189709959257" - <9qlkeh3hlq.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: -------=_Part_39103_7054220.1189709959257 On 18 Jun 2007 08:24:33 +0200, Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -27691,13 +26794,10 @@ ICAgIC8qCiAgICAgICogSWYgSSBoYXZlIG9wZW5lZCB0aGUgTWVudVNlcnZlciBzb2NrZXQsIHRo ZW4gSSBzaG91bGQgYWxzbyB0cnkgdG8gb3Blbgo= ------=_Part_39103_7054220.1189709959257-- - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:35:25 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: 20070913.01.tpd.patch This patch tests the equations 14.39-14.80 from Spiegel's Mathematical @@ -29020,14 +28120,10 @@ index 0000000..8507428 +\end{thebibliography} +\end{document} - - \start Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:53:21 -0700 From: Arthur Ralfs To: list -Message-id: <46EA13C1.5080502@shaw.ca> -MIME-version: 1.0 Subject: Axiom server This is a multi-part message in MIME format. @@ -29387,8 +28483,6 @@ AxiomServer: public == private where ;;(bar 8080 #'foo) --------------040400070103020008060305-- - - \start Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:30:24 -0700 From: Ed Borasky @@ -29476,14 +28570,11 @@ make: *** [all] Error 2 P.S.: The native GCL that comes with the system (Gentoo Linux) is 2.6.7 and installs fine. - - \start +Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 06:16:00 -0000 From: Tim Daly To: Camm Maguire, Ed Borasky -Cc: list Subject: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? -Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 06:16:00 -0000 Ed, @@ -29503,10 +28594,6 @@ then Axiom will build on that version of GCL from the zips archive. Tim ------- Start of forwarded message ------- -Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:30:24 -0700 -From: Ed Borasky -To: list -Subject: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? Is there some reason the GCL in Axiom shouldn't build on a 64-bit Linux system (gcc 4.2.0)? I've got three systems. Two are 32-bit and one is @@ -29589,21 +28676,11 @@ make: *** [all] Error 2 P.S.: The native GCL that comes with the system (Gentoo Linux) is 2.6.7 and installs fine. - -_______________________________________________ -Axiom-developer mailing list -list -http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -------- End of forwarded message ------- - - - \start +Date: 14 Sep 2007 08:52:10 -0400 +From: Camm Maguire To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 14 Sep 2007 08:52:10 -0400 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Greetings! Your build failure originated much earlier in the log -- could you please forward the entire thing? @@ -29714,36 +28791,11 @@ Tim Daly writes: > > P.S.: The native GCL that comes with the system (Gentoo Linux) is 2.6.7 > and installs fine. -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> ---------- -> -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:26:28 -0500 -To: list, Alfredo Portes -Cc: +From: Tim Daly +To: Alfredo Portes Subject: 20070914.01.tpd.patch This patch has been applied and tested. @@ -29909,13 +28961,11 @@ index d80388b..2c2a20c 100644 } - \start -Subject: Re: 20070914.01.tpd.patch -To: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:45:09 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: 20070914.01.tpd.patch > This patch has been applied and tested. > @@ -29962,18 +29012,11 @@ is equivalent to: set MenuServerOpened to 1. I am not sure if this will show up in testing, but is clealy wrong. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start +Date: 14 Sep 2007 09:59:55 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: 20070914.01.tpd.patch -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Sep 2007 09:59:55 -0500 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -29995,15 +29038,10 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: Which brings the question: What was of the motivation of mutilating the original patch? --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 10:15:59 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: 20070914.02.tpd.patch Four of new algebra test files contain duplicate )spool commands at the @@ -30075,13 +29113,10 @@ index 98364b1..1e76d86 100644 @ <>= - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:29:15 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: 20070914.03.tpd.patch This patch fixes a typo in hyper.pamphlet due to bad bracing. @@ -30119,11 +29154,10 @@ index 1e44d61..d9df6c2 100644 \start -Subject: Re: numberOfEmptySlots -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 16:30:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: numberOfEmptySlots > > Consider the following function from src/interp/clam.boot: @@ -30164,18 +29198,11 @@ unmolested to Lisp output. In vmlisp.lisp we have: so original meaning was (not (equal x cache)). Shoe changes NE to /= leading to error... --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:18:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: numberOfEmptySlots -Cc: list On Sat, 15 Sep 2007, Waldek Hebisch wrote: @@ -30213,15 +29240,10 @@ The condition in the loop is testing whether x does not contain itself. If equal is used, then I suspect that will end up with an infinite loop. Rather, I suspect it should have been `not eq'. --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:41:02 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: 20070915.01.tpd.patch This is a minor edit to fix regression test numbering in CartesianTensor. @@ -30675,14 +29697,11 @@ index 85f7027..5dfedb0 100644 --R --R - - \start -Subject: Re: numberOfEmptySlots -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 19:10:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: numberOfEmptySlots Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > On Sat, 15 Sep 2007, Waldek Hebisch wrote: @@ -30715,18 +29734,12 @@ numberOfEmptySlots is still unused, because normally $clamList contains only hashtables (AFAICS list are used only during compilation). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:49:41 -0700 From: Ed Borasky To: Tim Daly -Cc: Camm Maguire, list Subject: Re: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? +Cc: Camm Maguire root wrote: > Ed, @@ -30856,15 +29869,12 @@ root wrote: Can I have it use the installed GCL? The version in Portage on Gentoo is 2.6.7 and it installs OK. - - \start Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:05:49 -0700 From: Ed Borasky To: Tim Daly Subject: re: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? - <46EC3755.3010806@cesmail.net> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire Ed Borasky wrote: > root wrote: @@ -30896,15 +29906,12 @@ Axiom -- I have a choice of SBCL, Clisp, GCL (and CMUCL but only on the 32-bit systems). Normally I just install SBCL because it works with Maxima and the Lisp music codes I run. - - \start +Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 00:05:50 -0000 From: Tim Daly To: Ed Borasky Subject: re: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? - <46EC3755.3010806@cesmail.net> <46EC3B1D.8080505@cesmail.net> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list -Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 00:05:50 -0000 +Cc: Camm Maguire Ed, @@ -30944,19 +29951,12 @@ location and use it as your GCL image. The only change is that it links some routines used for communications to sman, which should be transparent for all other uses. -Tim - - - - \start Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:21:00 -0700 From: Ed Borasky To: Tim Daly Subject: re: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? - <46EC3755.3010806@cesmail.net> <46EC3B1D.8080505@cesmail.net> - <199912050646.dB56k4P26578@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire root wrote: @@ -30989,25 +29989,11 @@ Start Axiom with the command axiom znmeb@DreamScape /home/axiom/silver $ - - -> -> Tim -> -> - - - - \start +Date: 15 Sep 2007 19:57:54 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ed Borasky Subject: re: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? - <46EC3755.3010806@cesmail.net> <46EC3B1D.8080505@cesmail.net> - <199912050646.dB56k4P26578@localhost.localdomain> - <46EC76EC.1030508@cesmail.net> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 15 Sep 2007 19:57:54 -0500 -Cc: list Ed Borasky writes: @@ -31026,19 +30012,12 @@ Personally, I would not overwrite a system installed Lisp image (or any other system installed piece of software) with something built from elsewhere -- but that is just me. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 00:56:12 -0000 From: Tim Daly To: Ed Borasky Subject: re: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? - <46EC3755.3010806@cesmail.net> <46EC3B1D.8080505@cesmail.net> - <199912050646.dB56k4P26578@localhost.localdomain> - <46EC76EC.1030508@cesmail.net> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list -Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 00:56:12 -0000 +Cc: Camm Maguire >Ah -- I'll try that. Meanwhile, the Axiom build with gcl-2.6.7 completed >fine on the AMD64, so I guess 2.6.8pre2 is broken. One minor hitch: @@ -31066,17 +30045,11 @@ although my test here shows that this works and does the right thing. Can you post your command line? -Tim - - - \start Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:07:25 +0700 (NOVST) From: Andrey G. Grozin To: Ed Borasky Subject: re: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? - <46EC3755.3010806@cesmail.net> <46EC3B1D.8080505@cesmail.net> -Cc: list On Sat, 15 Sep 2007, Ed Borasky wrote: > It turns out the gcl-2.6.7 tarball is there in "zips", so I just edited @@ -31093,15 +30066,10 @@ maxima requires an ansi gcl). So, if you emerge gcl with USU=+ansi, you can build maxima; if you emerge it with -ansi, you can (maybe) build axiom; but never both. -Andrey - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:18:03 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: 20070915.02.tpd.patch (bug 100) This code used to cause an infinite loop that eventually killed Axiom. @@ -31350,18 +30318,12 @@ index 0000000..799d339 +\end{thebibliography} +\end{document} - - \start Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 21:56:20 -0700 From: Ed Borasky To: Tim Daly Subject: re: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? - <46EC3755.3010806@cesmail.net> <46EC3B1D.8080505@cesmail.net> - <199912050646.dB56k4P26578@localhost.localdomain> - <46EC76EC.1030508@cesmail.net> - <199912050736.dB57aOj26652@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire root wrote: >> Ah -- I'll try that. Meanwhile, the Axiom build with gcl-2.6.7 completed @@ -31459,23 +30421,12 @@ Start Axiom with the command axiom So ... what does all that say? - - - - - - \start +Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 05:16:10 -0000 From: Tim Daly To: Ed Borasky Subject: re: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? - <46EC3755.3010806@cesmail.net> <46EC3B1D.8080505@cesmail.net> - <199912050646.dB56k4P26578@localhost.localdomain> - <46EC76EC.1030508@cesmail.net> - <199912050736.dB57aOj26652@localhost.localdomain> - <46ECB774.4030109@cesmail.net> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list -Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 05:16:10 -0000 +Cc: Camm Maguire root wrote: >>> Ah -- I'll try that. Meanwhile, the Axiom build with gcl-2.6.7 completed @@ -31591,22 +30542,12 @@ The sudo almost certainly did not copy your AXIOM shell variable. I'll have to give this some thought. -Tim - - - \start Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:27:51 -0700 From: Ed Borasky To: Tim Daly Subject: re: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? - <46EC3755.3010806@cesmail.net> <46EC3B1D.8080505@cesmail.net> - <199912050646.dB56k4P26578@localhost.localdomain> - <46EC76EC.1030508@cesmail.net> - <199912050736.dB57aOj26652@localhost.localdomain> - <46ECB774.4030109@cesmail.net> - <199912051156.dB5BuJ608978@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire root wrote: > root wrote: @@ -31728,16 +30669,12 @@ all the environment variables will be set all the way through. It won't take me long to check it -- it's less than an hour on an Athlon64 X2 5200+ :). - - \start Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:40:10 -0700 From: Ed Borasky To: Tim Daly Subject: re: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? - <46EC3B1D.8080505@cesmail.net> <199912050646.dB56k4P26578@localhost.localdomain> <46EC76EC.1030508@cesmail.net> <199912050736.dB57aOj26652@localhost.localdomain> <46ECB774.4030109@cesmail.net> <199912051156.dB5BuJ608978@localhost.localdomain> - <46ECBED7.8040304@cesmail.net> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire Ed Borasky wrote: > root wrote: @@ -31902,23 +30839,12 @@ make: *** [install] Error 1 It's seeing AXIOM and PATH as exported, which is the way I believe it's supposed to behave. - - - - \start +Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 05:47:18 -0000 From: Tim Daly To: Ed Borasky Subject: re: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? - <46EC3755.3010806@cesmail.net> <46EC3B1D.8080505@cesmail.net> - <199912050646.dB56k4P26578@localhost.localdomain> - <46EC76EC.1030508@cesmail.net> - <199912050736.dB57aOj26652@localhost.localdomain> - <46ECB774.4030109@cesmail.net> - <199912051156.dB5BuJ608978@localhost.localdomain> - <46ECBED7.8040304@cesmail.net> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list -Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 05:47:18 -0000 +Cc: Camm Maguire >That should be easy to test, though -- do the whole build as root and >all the environment variables will be set all the way through. It won't @@ -31928,22 +30854,12 @@ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 05:47:18 -0000 envy :-) send the system to me and i'll test it here :-) who makes the box? - - \start Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:51:54 -0700 From: Ed Borasky To: Tim Daly Subject: re: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? - <46EC3755.3010806@cesmail.net> <46EC3B1D.8080505@cesmail.net> - <199912050646.dB56k4P26578@localhost.localdomain> - <46EC76EC.1030508@cesmail.net> - <199912050736.dB57aOj26652@localhost.localdomain> - <46ECB774.4030109@cesmail.net> - <199912051156.dB5BuJ608978@localhost.localdomain> - <46ECBED7.8040304@cesmail.net> - <199912051227.dB5CRTL08996@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire root wrote: >> That should be easy to test, though -- do the whole build as root and @@ -31962,36 +30878,24 @@ faster than Dell and cheaper. Actually I put in my own RAM ... that's easy. I was going to get one of the tiny desktop ones from HP, but they only went up to 2 GB and came with Windows Vista installed. I don't need that. :) - - \start +Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 06:01:22 -0000 From: Tim Daly To: Ed Borasky Subject: re: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? - <46EC3B1D.8080505@cesmail.net> <199912050646.dB56k4P26578@localhost.localdomain> <46EC76EC.1030508@cesmail.net> <199912050736.dB57aOj26652@localhost.localdomain> <46ECB774.4030109@cesmail.net> <199912051156.dB5BuJ608978@localhost.localdomain> - <46ECBED7.8040304@cesmail.net> <46ECC1BA.1060805@cesmail.net> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list -Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 06:01:22 -0000 +Cc: Camm Maguire try user> export SHVAR=i/am/set user> echo $SHVAR user> sudo echo $SHVAR - - - \start Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 08:12:07 -0700 From: Arthur Ralfs To: list -Message-id: <46ED47C7.3080409@shaw.ca> -MIME-version: 1.0 Subject: Axiom server -This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------040504080200010205090103 - This is just the previous example I posted with everything in one pamphlet file and with the right license. The documentation is minimal at this point. @@ -32484,19 +31388,13 @@ before starting the Axiom server. \bibitem{1} nothing \end{thebibliography} \end{document} ---------------040504080200010205090103-- - - \start Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 08:18:39 -0700 From: Ed Borasky To: Tim Daly Subject: re: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? - <46EC3B1D.8080505@cesmail.net> <199912050646.dB56k4P26578@localhost.localdomain> <46EC76EC.1030508@cesmail.net> <199912050736.dB57aOj26652@localhost.localdomain> <46ECB774.4030109@cesmail.net> <199912051156.dB5BuJ608978@localhost.localdomain> - <46ECBED7.8040304@cesmail.net> <46ECC1BA.1060805@cesmail.net> - <199912051241.dB5Cfci09199@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire root wrote: > try @@ -32513,18 +31411,12 @@ znmeb@DreamScape ~ $ sudo echo $SHVAR i/am/set znmeb@DreamScape ~ $ - - \start Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 11:40:27 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ed Borasky Subject: re: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? - <46EC3B1D.8080505@cesmail.net> <199912050646.dB56k4P26578@localhost.localdomain> <46EC76EC.1030508@cesmail.net> <199912050736.dB57aOj26652@localhost.localdomain> <46ECB774.4030109@cesmail.net> <199912051156.dB5BuJ608978@localhost.localdomain> - <46ECBED7.8040304@cesmail.net> <46ECC1BA.1060805@cesmail.net> - <199912051241.dB5Cfci09199@localhost.localdomain> - <46ED494F.2080206@cesmail.net> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire >> try >> user> export SHVAR=i/am/set @@ -32545,30 +31437,19 @@ Odd. that's what I get too. I'm at a loss to understand why the make install failed. But it is clearly related to the missing AXIOM variable. -Tim - - - \start Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 11:40:58 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Arthur Ralfs - Sep 2007 08:12:07 -0700) Subject: Re: Axiom server -Cc: list Excellent. I'll put it into the update queue. Thanks. --Tim - - \start Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:35:32 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: list Subject: Re: Axiom server - <200709161540.l8GFewN09430@localhost.localdomain> - - <46ED76C3.6080900@shaw.ca> On 9/16/07, Arthur Ralfs wrote: @@ -32590,18 +31471,11 @@ WriteLine, if I am not wrong, is defined in the http.lisp file. It works fine on Linux. -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - \start -Subject: Re: Axiom server -To: Alfredo Portes Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 06:51:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Alfredo Portes +Subject: Re: Axiom server Alfredo Portes wrote: > On 9/16/07, Arthur Ralfs wrote: @@ -32637,19 +31511,11 @@ You can add: to http.lisp to define it (or better just call WRITE_-LINE from spad). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 01:31:32 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Axiom server - -Cc: list > You can add: > @@ -32675,18 +31541,11 @@ to # I have tried other locations, but cant think of the proper way to access it. -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - \start Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:38:46 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette -Cc: list On 09/07/2007 01:16 AM, Tim Daly wrote: > Bill, @@ -32708,17 +31567,11 @@ that solves the problem? Tim, you should consider to moderate the axiom-developer list. It seems too open for your taste. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 04:49:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette To: Ralf Hemmecke, Tim Daly -Cc: list - +Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette --- Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -32750,17 +31603,6 @@ keep the identities of the various projects distinct. (Note that this does not imply hostility toward those projects, just making sure the distinction is clear to avoid confusion.) -Cheers, -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. -http://sims.yahoo.com/ - - - \start Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 06:38:10 -0700 From: Ed Borasky @@ -32808,15 +31650,11 @@ lists and I haven't seen much activity. Maybe that's because the of getting them up and running, and, ... well ... the math pretty much has to be the same on all of them, doesn't it? :) - - \start +Date: 17 Sep 2007 09:43:43 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ed Borasky Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette - <46EE8342.5000807@cesmail.net> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 17 Sep 2007 09:43:43 -0500 -Cc: list Ed Borasky writes: @@ -32829,40 +31667,22 @@ Ed Borasky writes: There is quite na bit of activity on open-axiom-patches@lists.sf.net, I would say :-) --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:49:16 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Ed Borasky Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette - <46EE8342.5000807@cesmail.net> -Cc: list > Now that I think of it, I'm on the FriCAS and OpenAxiom > lists and I haven't seen much activity. Are you looking at the commits in both projects? - - \start +Date: 17 Sep 2007 11:32:16 -0400 +From: Camm Maguire To: Ed Borasky Subject: re: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? - <46EC3755.3010806@cesmail.net> <46EC3B1D.8080505@cesmail.net> - <199912050646.dB56k4P26578@localhost.localdomain> - <46EC76EC.1030508@cesmail.net> - <199912050736.dB57aOj26652@localhost.localdomain> - <46ECB774.4030109@cesmail.net> - <199912051156.dB5BuJ608978@localhost.localdomain> - <46ECBED7.8040304@cesmail.net> - <199912051227.dB5CRTL08996@localhost.localdomain> - <46ECC47A.4080205@cesmail.net> -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 17 Sep 2007 11:32:16 -0400 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Greetings! Just double checking -- is there a persistent GCL build failure here? If so, can you please post the full log? @@ -32887,24 +31707,12 @@ Ed Borasky writes: > > I was going to get one of the tiny desktop ones from HP, but they only > went up to 2 GB and came with Windows Vista installed. I don't need that. :) -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start +Date: 17 Sep 2007 11:39:46 -0400 +From: Camm Maguire To: Ed Borasky Subject: Re: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? - <54tzpx9zph.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> <46EB5C1B.6000805@cesmail.net> -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 17 Sep 2007 11:39:46 -0400 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Greetings! Please ignore my last post asking for your log -- thanks! @@ -32928,22 +31736,11 @@ issue is not so much with GCL, but rather that newer ld shipped with gcc is writing new section types into the object file, which GCL did not know about, but does now. -Take care, --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - \start Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:45:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] Re: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? - <54tzpx9zph.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> <46EB5C1B.6000805@cesmail.net> - <54d4whgv25.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org On Mon, 17 Sep 2007, Camm Maguire wrote: @@ -32970,18 +31767,11 @@ Yes, it was done, but with multiple versions of GCL-2.6.8pre. Axiom.build-improvements has only one copy -- the latest. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 17 Sep 2007 15:30:29 -0400 +From: Camm Maguire To: Andrey G. Grozin Subject: re: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? - <46EC3755.3010806@cesmail.net> <46EC3B1D.8080505@cesmail.net> - -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 17 Sep 2007 15:30:29 -0400 -Cc: list Greetings! Last I heard, a build was basically at hand with gclcvs ANSI. @@ -33004,36 +31794,12 @@ Andrey G. Grozin writes: > gcl (note that maxima requires an ansi gcl). So, if you emerge gcl > with USU=+ansi, you can build maxima; if you emerge it with -ansi, you > can (maybe) build axiom; but never both. -> -> Andrey -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:10:42 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Camm Maguire - on 17 Sep 2007 11:39:46 -0400) Subject: Re: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? - <54tzpx9zph.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> <46EB5C1B.6000805@cesmail.net> - <54d4whgv25.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org - -Ed, There is a latest version of GCL also in the zips directory called gcl-2.6.8pre2 which you can try to build. GCL stayed at the 2.6.8pre @@ -33046,18 +31812,11 @@ version of 2.6.7 so it was a good bet that Axiom would build. Since Axiom works on your system it hardly matters which version of lisp you're using. -Tim - - - \start Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:42:13 -0700 From: Ed Borasky To: Alfredo Portes Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette - <46EE8342.5000807@cesmail.net> - -Cc: list Alfredo Portes wrote: >> Now that I think of it, I'm on the FriCAS and OpenAxiom @@ -33068,17 +31827,11 @@ Alfredo Portes wrote: No ... I'm looking at human-readable e-mail. Why would I track commits? I'm not a developer, just a user/tester. - - \start +Date: 17 Sep 2007 21:14:57 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ed Borasky Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette - <46EE8342.5000807@cesmail.net> - - <46EF2CF5.6060401@cesmail.net> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 17 Sep 2007 21:14:57 -0500 -Cc: list Ed Borasky writes: @@ -33086,19 +31839,11 @@ Ed Borasky writes: Then open-axiom-patches@lists.sf.net is the answer :-) --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:15:48 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Ed Borasky Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette - <46EE8342.5000807@cesmail.net> - - <46EF2CF5.6060401@cesmail.net> -Cc: list On 9/17/07, Ed Borasky Ed Borasky wrote: @@ -33121,22 +31866,11 @@ me, and it only affects the Axiom users, which I am not. But that is just my very humble opinion. -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - \start Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 04:05:42 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Reis on 17 Sep 2007 21:14:57 -0500) Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette - <46EE8342.5000807@cesmail.net> - - <46EF2CF5.6060401@cesmail.net> <87myvkra72.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -Cc: list Gaby, @@ -33148,18 +31882,12 @@ It is inappropriate behavior to advertise or advocate your project on this mailing list. You have private email as well as your own project mailing list. Please do not do this again. -Tim - - - \start Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:27:17 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette - <87myvkra72.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <200709180805.l8I85g916356@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Tim, @@ -33187,22 +31915,12 @@ On 09/18/2007 10:05 AM, root wrote: > It is inappropriate behavior to advertise or advocate your project > on this mailing list. You have private email as well as your own > project mailing list. Please do not do this again. -> -> Tim - - \start Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:44:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette - <46EE8342.5000807@cesmail.net> - - <46EF2CF5.6060401@cesmail.net> <87myvkra72.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <200709180805.l8I85g916356@localhost.localdomain> - <46EF8BE5.80402@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -33217,20 +31935,11 @@ Ralf -- like any one of us does. If you don't like it, create your own. It would be hard to come to agreement on `taste and colours'. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 18 Sep 2007 08:06:45 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette - <46EE8342.5000807@cesmail.net> - - <46EF2CF5.6060401@cesmail.net> <87myvkra72.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <200709180805.l8I85g916356@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 18 Sep 2007 08:06:45 -0500 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -33247,20 +31956,12 @@ I was answering a specific question asked on the list. That is not advertisement, and the answer was appropriate. You may not like the answer, but it was appropriate. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:18:57 +0200 From: Ondrej Certik To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette - <46EE8342.5000807@cesmail.net> - - <46EF2CF5.6060401@cesmail.net> <87myvkra72.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <200709180805.l8I85g916356@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > I have no objection to your participation in this mailing list but... > @@ -33283,21 +31984,11 @@ working on it and joing the other one, which is better. That said, of course I wouldn't like it, when someone forks a project that I started and worked for a long time. But that's life. -Ondrej - - - \start Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:36:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ondrej Certik Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette - <46EE8342.5000807@cesmail.net> - - <46EF2CF5.6060401@cesmail.net> <87myvkra72.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <200709180805.l8I85g916356@localhost.localdomain> - <85b5c3130709180818g3aa513d4m475d2bc995965073@mail.gmail.com> -Cc: list On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Ondrej Certik wrote: @@ -33307,22 +31998,11 @@ On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Ondrej Certik wrote: Even if you gave incentive to create the fork? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:26:38 +0200 From: Ondrej Certik To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette - <46EE8342.5000807@cesmail.net> - - <46EF2CF5.6060401@cesmail.net> <87myvkra72.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <200709180805.l8I85g916356@localhost.localdomain> - <85b5c3130709180818g3aa513d4m475d2bc995965073@mail.gmail.com> - -Cc: list On 9/18/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Ondrej Certik wrote: @@ -33337,16 +32017,11 @@ I don't know, never happened to me yet. But one thing is what I like or don't like and another thing is how to spend my time effectively (i.e. not working on a project, if there is a better alternative). -Ondrej - - - \start Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:35:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette To: Ondrej Certik -Cc: list --- Ondrej Certik wrote: @@ -33366,23 +32041,11 @@ them to diverge more and more as the years pass - their goals are different. And that's OK, but I can understand Tim's wanting to keep the Axiom project's eye on the ball, so to speak. -Cheers, -CY - - - ____________________________________________________________________________________ -Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 - - - - - \start +Date: 18 Sep 2007 14:31:08 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ondrej Certik Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 18 Sep 2007 14:31:08 -0500 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -33404,16 +32067,11 @@ tin air. >From my perspective the original Axiom system is that of Dick Jenks. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:09:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette To: Gabriel Dos Reis, Ondrej Certik -Cc: list +Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette --- Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -33433,22 +32091,11 @@ be a CURRENT goal of the project and one I personally like. Well, the new projects and forks each have their own names now - can we agree to proceed on that basis going forward? -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. -http://farechase.yahoo.com/ - - - \start Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:54:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette -Cc: list On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, C Y wrote: @@ -33479,16 +32126,11 @@ as defined by the readme file (soemthing it is hard to disagree with) -- from what on the way has popped up as new goals without being properly marked so. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:02:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette OK, I see the confusion. By "original project" I was referring to the first open source Axiom project, not the original IBM effort. @@ -33501,23 +32143,11 @@ being the original open source project. From this point on I will just refer to "Axiom" with the understanding that it will not be confused with anything other than the project Tim leads. -Cheers, -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. -http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting - - - \start Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:13:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette -Cc: list On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, C Y wrote: @@ -33529,18 +32159,11 @@ that the notion of `original Axiom project' is not unambiguous. For many (most?) Axiom is what Dick Jenks conceived. At least, that is what I sense when I happen to talk with former Axiom developers or users. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:13:26 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - from Gabriel Dos Reis on Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:13:49 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette - -Cc: list >| Given Tim's original open source project still retains the name Axiom, >| by default when I refer to Axiom I mean the Axiom open source project. @@ -33556,18 +32179,11 @@ the project headed by Dick Jenks. I worked on that project. The "Axiom" project is on sourceforge.net/projects/axiom and savannah.nongnu.org/projects/axiom. -Tim - - - \start Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:31:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette - - <200709191813.l8JIDQ917202@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list On Wed, 19 Sep 2007, root wrote: @@ -33584,20 +32200,11 @@ directory you are pointing at in the above directories? That system is what most Axiom users (and an IBM Research rep. I talked to yesterday) call Axiom. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:41:28 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - from Gabriel Dos Reis on Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:31:44 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette - - <200709191813.l8JIDQ917202@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list Gaby, @@ -33628,10 +32235,6 @@ You forked this project which allows you to set your own goals. I don't argue about OpenAxiom's goals. Please go define your own goals and stop stirring up useless debate on this mailing list. - - - - >BTW, is the system described by Jenks&Sutor's book the one in the >directory you are pointing at in the above directories? That system >is what most Axiom users (and an IBM Research rep. I talked to @@ -33645,13 +32248,8 @@ As a matter of common professional courtesy I expect you to change the term "Axiom" to "OpenAxiom" everywhere in your project. That is "standard behavior" for a fork and you do love standard behavior. - - - Both of these are dead topics. - - You insist on trying to create confusion where there is none. I insist on trying to minimize the confusion. Thus, I insist on maintaining the separation of your project from this project. It's @@ -33674,20 +32272,11 @@ project as a goal. Please stop. -Tim - - - \start Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:53:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette - - <200709191813.l8JIDQ917202@localhost.localdomain> - - <200709192041.l8JKfSO17273@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list On Wed, 19 Sep 2007, root wrote: @@ -33704,7 +32293,6 @@ indicated that moving to `heavy use of Lisp' was part of the GOALs. On the way, goals have popped up, yet claimed to be part of the original goals. I feel that is close to `tricking people'. - [...] | Suppose you worked at a University and had the "Meadow" project. @@ -33720,19 +32308,13 @@ Ask them. But, it would be highly interesting for you to clarify how that relates to Axiom and OpenAxiom and anything I would have done at any conference. --- Gaby - - - \start From: Tim Daly Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:38:31 -0500 -To: "Arthur Ralfs" +To: Arthur Ralfs Cc: list Subject: axserver.pamphlet -Arthur, - I just got a chance to test your axserver.pamphlet. It worked like a charm. Nice job. The only missing thing was a failing request for /favicon.ico which I'll fix. It needs a bit of work to make it more @@ -33743,20 +32325,12 @@ I'll look at what it takes to add it to the system. I'm also going to construct a series of test cases for it so they can be added to the test suite. -Tim - - \start +Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:52:27 -0700 From: Richard Harke To: Camm Maguire, list, - gcl-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: Axiom ia64 -Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:52:27 -0700 - <200707060949.45474.Richard Harke> - <54ejjlh2lh.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: I have been spending some time on this and finally feel like I understand what needs to be done. The first part is in the @@ -33770,9 +32344,6 @@ at least for this usage. All the low level routines appear to be present but it is not clear what front end routine(s) to call to take advantage of them. Can you make any suggestions? -Richard - - On Fri July 6 2007 10:19, you wrote: > Greetings! > @@ -33788,21 +32359,11 @@ On Fri July 6 2007 10:19, you wrote: > > Thanks! Do you have any refs to concise documentation for the > gcc-emitted reloc types? -> -> Take care, -> -> > _______________________________________________ -> > Axiom-developer mailing list -> > list -> > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:00:27 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: 20070921.01.tpd.patch The call @@ -34035,15 +32596,10 @@ index 0000000..b82caf0 +\end{thebibliography} +\end{document} - - \start Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:46:34 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Alasdair McAndrew, Arthur Ralfs - (Alasdair McAndrew) - <1d67a53c0709211706t61cc848bi9d2b8620f92d6aa1@mail.gmail.com> -Cc: list Subject: Re: hyperdoc on windows (copied to list) @@ -34066,10 +32622,6 @@ It would go a lot faster if I knew javascript. I'm a complete novice at coding web pages. They aren't pretty but they work. -Tim - - - >Thank you so much - I'll look into it as soon as I can. Do you know if >anybody is working on a simple shell for Axiom in windows, with colours >etc? Or even something better, such as wxMaxima is for Maxima? @@ -34086,21 +32638,13 @@ Tim >> contains a hyperdoc that runs standalone on windows. >> It requires Xming. It will not send commands to Axiom >> but most of the documentation works standalone anyway. ->> ->> Tim - - \start Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:17:04 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Tim Daly Subject: re: hyperdoc on windows - <1d67a53c0709211706t61cc848bi9d2b8620f92d6aa1@mail.gmail.com> - <200709220146.l8M1kYN18543@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list -Hi Tim, > At the moment, due to the great work by Arthur Ralfs, I'm making > progress on the browser-based version. I now have some of the @@ -34122,19 +32666,11 @@ the databases: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxHyperDocReplacement -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - \start Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:46:03 -0700 From: Ed Borasky To: Tim Daly Subject: re: hyperdoc on windows - <200709220146.l8M1kYN18543@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list root wrote: > (copied to list) @@ -34157,9 +32693,6 @@ root wrote: > I'm a complete novice at coding web pages. > They aren't pretty but they work. > -> Tim -> -> > >> Thank you so much - I'll look into it as soon as I can. Do you know if >> anybody is working on a simple shell for Axiom in windows, with colours @@ -34176,15 +32709,6 @@ root wrote: >>> contains a hyperdoc that runs standalone on windows. >>> It requires Xming. It will not send commands to Axiom >>> but most of the documentation works standalone anyway. ->>> ->>> Tim -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> There are some tools you can get to make the browser-side stuff easier. In the open source realm, there are Quanta+, Bluefish, NVu and Screem. I @@ -34200,34 +32724,20 @@ http://www.activestate.com/openkomodo/ I have the regular paid Komodo IDE and I love it. - - \start Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:52:38 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Alfredo Portes - (Alfredo Portes) Subject: re: hyperdoc on windows - <1d67a53c0709211706t61cc848bi9d2b8620f92d6aa1@mail.gmail.com> - <200709220146.l8M1kYN18543@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list If you'll capture the configure options for GCL on windows I can almost certainly get axiom trunk running there. -Tim - - - \start Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:54:05 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Tim Daly Subject: re: hyperdoc on windows - <1d67a53c0709211706t61cc848bi9d2b8620f92d6aa1@mail.gmail.com> - <200709220146.l8M1kYN18543@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list > It would go a lot faster if I knew javascript. > I'm a complete novice at coding web pages. @@ -34238,16 +32748,11 @@ Two good libraries when working with javascript to make your life easier: http://jquery.com/ http://mochikit.com/ - - \start Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:16:23 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Tim Daly Subject: re: hyperdoc on windows - <1d67a53c0709211706t61cc848bi9d2b8620f92d6aa1@mail.gmail.com> - <200709220146.l8M1kYN18543@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list > axiom silver version (git or svn) has most of Arthur's code for > mathML output already. I've attached his pamphlet file so you can try it. @@ -34307,21 +32812,11 @@ are using if I am not mistaken. Waldek can probably say if this is correct. I am not sure, I never got Martin's code to run :-(. But he can say if his code provides the same or more functionality. -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - \start +Date: 22 Sep 2007 08:20:04 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Alfredo Portes Subject: re: hyperdoc on windows - <1d67a53c0709211706t61cc848bi9d2b8620f92d6aa1@mail.gmail.com> - <200709220146.l8M1kYN18543@localhost.localdomain> - -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 22 Sep 2007 08:20:04 +0200 -Cc: list Alfredo Portes writes: @@ -34341,22 +32836,11 @@ It does not provide the buttons yet. -Martin - - - - - \start Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:28:40 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: hyperdoc on windows - <1d67a53c0709211706t61cc848bi9d2b8620f92d6aa1@mail.gmail.com> - <200709220146.l8M1kYN18543@localhost.localdomain> - - <9qtzpn9q7f.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list On 22 Sep 2007 08:20:04 +0200, Martin Rubey wrote: > Alfredo Portes writes: @@ -34382,24 +32866,11 @@ done by Arthur (without the file processing it is doing currently). > > yet. -Thank you Martin. - -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - \start Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:14:19 -0700 From: Ed Borasky To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: GCL on an AMD64 Linux system? - <54tzpx9zph.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org - -This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------070201030909010107080208 Camm Maguire wrote: > Greetings! Your build failure originated much earlier in the log -- @@ -34511,24 +32982,6 @@ Camm Maguire wrote: >> >> P.S.: The native GCL that comes with the system (Gentoo Linux) is 2.6.7 >> and installs fine. ->> ->> ->> _______________________________________________ ->> Axiom-developer mailing list ->> list ->> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer ->> ---------- ->> ->> ->> ->> _______________________________________________ ->> Axiom-developer mailing list ->> list ->> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer ->> ->> ->> -> --------------070201030909010107080208 @@ -34543,39 +32996,39 @@ mnt.c:(.text+0x3a9): warning: the use of `tmpnam' is dangerous, better us= e `mkstemp' make[1]: [install-shell] Error 1 (ignored) make[1]: [install-code] Error 1 (ignored) -texhash: Updating /home/znmeb/.texmf-config/ls-R...=20 -texhash: Updating /home/znmeb/.texmf-var/ls-R...=20 +texhash: Updating /home/znmeb/.texmf-config/ls-R... +texhash: Updating /home/znmeb/.texmf-var/ls-R... texhash: /usr/share/texmf: directory not writable. 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TAR=tar AXIOMXLROOT=/home/axiom/silver/mnt/linux/compiler O=o BYE= +=bye LISP=lsp DAASE=/home/axiom/silver/src/share XLIB=/usr/X11R6/= +lib GCLOPTS=--enable-vssize=65536*2 --enable-locbfd --disable-dynsysb= +fd --disable-statsysbfd --enable-maxpage=256*1024 --disable-xgcl --disa= +ble-tkconfig SRCDIRS=bootdir interpdir sharedir algebradir etcdir clefd= +ir docdir graphdir smandir hyperdir inputdir PATCH=patch 16 making /home/axiom/silver/src/Makefile from /home/axiom/silver/src/Mak= efile.pamphlet 18 making /home/axiom/silver/src @@ -34824,13 +33277,13 @@ sp m.lisp creating cache ./config.cache checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu -host=3Dx86_64-unknown-linux-gnu -enable_machine=3D -use=3Damd64-linux +host=x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu +enable_machine= +use=amd64-linux checking for gcc... gcc -checking whether the C compiler (gcc -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 ) works... ye= +checking whether the C compiler (gcc -march=athlon64 -O2 ) works... ye= s -checking whether the C compiler (gcc -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 ) is a cross-= +checking whether the C compiler (gcc -march=athlon64 -O2 ) is a cross-= compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes @@ -34850,7 +33303,7 @@ checking for GNU ld option -Map... yes checking for size of gmp limbs... 8 checking _SHORT_LIMB... no checking _LONG_LONG_LIMB... no -checking for X... libraries /usr/lib64, headers=20 +checking for X... libraries /usr/lib64, headers checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet... no checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet_stub... no checking for gethostbyname... yes @@ -34878,9 +33331,9 @@ checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes checking for gcc... gcc -checking whether the C compiler (gcc -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 ) works... yes= +checking whether the C compiler (gcc -march=athlon64 -O2 ) works... yes= -checking whether the C compiler (gcc -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 ) is a cross-c= +checking whether the C compiler (gcc -march=athlon64 -O2 ) is a cross-c= ompiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes @@ -34953,7 +33406,7 @@ checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no -checking for suffix of executables...=20 +checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes @@ -35113,7 +33566,7 @@ checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no -checking for suffix of executables...=20 +checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes @@ -35363,7 +33816,7 @@ checking emacs default.el... /usr/share/emacs/22.1/site-lisp/default.el checking emacs info/dir... /usr/share/info/ checking for tcl/tk... checking for tclsh... tclsh checking for main in -llieee... no -using TK_VERSION=3D8.4 in /usr/lib64 +using TK_VERSION=8.4 in /usr/lib64 checking alloca... yes checking Checking for buggy gcc version from redhat... no updating cache ./config.cache @@ -35377,74 +33830,74 @@ makedefc # begin makedefs -# use=3Damd64-linux +# use=amd64-linux # for main link of raw_gcl -LIBS=3D -lm -lgmp -lreadline -lncurses +LIBS= -lm -lgmp -lreadline -lncurses #The multi precision library stuff -MPFILES=3D$(MPDIR)/@MPI_FILE@ $(MPDIR)/libmport.a +MPFILES=$(MPDIR)/@MPI_FILE@ $(MPDIR)/libmport.a # root for the installation, eg /usr/local # This would cause make install to create /usr/local/bin/gcl and # /usr/local/lib/gcl-2-??/* with some basic files. -prefix=3D/usr/local +prefix=/usr/local # where to place the info files -INFO_DIR=3D/usr/share/info/ +INFO_DIR=/usr/share/info/ # where to put emacs lisp files. -EMACS_SITE_LISP=3D/usr/share/emacs/22.1/site-lisp +EMACS_SITE_LISP=/usr/share/emacs/22.1/site-lisp # the default.el file -EMACS_DEFAULT_EL=3D/usr/share/emacs/22.1/site-lisp/default.el +EMACS_DEFAULT_EL=/usr/share/emacs/22.1/site-lisp/default.el # numerous TCL/TK variables culled from the tkConfig.sh and tclConfig.sh # if these are found. -TK_CONFIG_PREFIX=3D/usr/lib64 -TK_LIBRARY=3D/usr/lib64/tk8.4 -TCL_LIBRARY=3D/usr/lib64/tcl8.4 -TK_XINCLUDES=3D -TK_INCLUDE=3D-I/usr/lib64/../include -TCL_INCLUDE=3D-I/usr/lib64/../include -TK_LIB_SPEC=3D-L/usr/lib64 -ltk8.4 -TK_BUILD_LIB_SPEC=3D-L/usr/lib64 -ltk8.4 -TK_XLIBSW=3D-L/usr/lib64 -lX11 -TK_XINCLUDES=3D -TCL_LIB_SPEC=3D-L/usr/lib64 -ltcl8.4${TCL_DBGX} -TCL_DL_LIBS=3D-ldl -TCL_LIBS=3D-ldl -lpthread -lm - -NOTIFY=3Dyes -CC=3Dgcc -CFLAGS=3D-march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe= +TK_CONFIG_PREFIX=/usr/lib64 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-MAKEINFO=3Dmakeinfo +MAKEINFO=makeinfo -FLISP=3Dsaved_gcl -SYSTEM=3Dgcl -BUILD_BFD=3Dh/bfd.h h/bfdlink.h h/ansidecl.h h/symcat.h -GMPDIR=3Dgmp3 -X_LIBS=3D -L/usr/lib64 -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lXaw -lX11 -X_CFLAGS=3D +FLISP=saved_gcl +SYSTEM=gcl +BUILD_BFD=h/bfd.h h/bfdlink.h h/ansidecl.h h/symcat.h +GMPDIR=gmp3 +X_LIBS= -L/usr/lib64 -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lXaw -lX11 +X_CFLAGS= -PROCESSOR_FLAGS=3D +PROCESSOR_FLAGS= -EXTRA_LOBJS=3D -LEADING_UNDERSCORE=3D -GNU_LD=3D1 +EXTRA_LOBJS= +LEADING_UNDERSCORE= +GNU_LD=1 add-defs1 amd64-linux using amd64-linux.defs make[3]: Entering directory `/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre' @@ -35469,10 +33922,10 @@ bfd/doc' Making all in po make[6]: Entering directory `/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/binutils= /bfd/po' -( if test 'x.' !=3D 'x.'; then \ - posrcprefix=3D'../'; \ +( if test 'x.' != 'x.'; then \ + posrcprefix='../'; \ else \ - posrcprefix=3D"../"; \ + posrcprefix="../"; \ fi; \ rm -f SRC-POTFILES-t SRC-POTFILES \ && (sed -e '/^#/d' \ @@ -35489,8 +33942,8 @@ make[6]: Entering directory `/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/binutils= && chmod a-w BLD-POTFILES-t \ && mv BLD-POTFILES-t BLD-POTFILES ) cd .. \ - && CONFIG_FILES=3Dpo/Makefile.in:po/Make-in \ - CONFIG_HEADERS=3D /bin/sh ./config.status + && CONFIG_FILES=po/Makefile.in:po/Make-in \ + CONFIG_HEADERS= /bin/sh ./config.status config.status: creating po/Makefile.in config.status: executing depfiles commands config.status: executing default commands @@ -35498,23 +33951,23 @@ make[6]: Leaving directory `/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/binutils/= bfd/po' make[6]: Entering directory `/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/binutils= /bfd/po' -file=3D./`echo fr | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ - && rm -f $file && PATH=3D../src:$PATH /usr/bin/gmsgfmt -o $file fr.po -file=3D./`echo tr | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ - && rm -f $file && PATH=3D../src:$PATH /usr/bin/gmsgfmt -o $file tr.po -file=3D./`echo ja | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ - && rm -f $file && PATH=3D../src:$PATH /usr/bin/gmsgfmt -o $file ja.po -file=3D./`echo es | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ - && rm -f $file && PATH=3D../src:$PATH /usr/bin/gmsgfmt -o $file es.po -file=3D./`echo sv | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ - && rm -f $file && PATH=3D../src:$PATH /usr/bin/gmsgfmt -o $file sv.po -file=3D./`echo da | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ - && rm -f $file && PATH=3D../src:$PATH /usr/bin/gmsgfmt -o $file da.po -file=3D./`echo zh_CN | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ - && rm -f $file && PATH=3D../src:$PATH /usr/bin/gmsgfmt -o $file zh_CN.= +file=./`echo fr | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ + && rm -f $file && PATH=../src:$PATH /usr/bin/gmsgfmt -o $file fr.po +file=./`echo tr | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ + && rm -f $file && PATH=../src:$PATH /usr/bin/gmsgfmt -o $file tr.po +file=./`echo ja | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ + && rm -f $file && PATH=../src:$PATH /usr/bin/gmsgfmt -o $file ja.po +file=./`echo es | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ + && rm -f $file && PATH=../src:$PATH /usr/bin/gmsgfmt -o $file es.po +file=./`echo sv | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ + && rm -f $file && PATH=../src:$PATH /usr/bin/gmsgfmt -o $file sv.po +file=./`echo da | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ + && rm -f $file && PATH=../src:$PATH /usr/bin/gmsgfmt -o $file da.po +file=./`echo zh_CN | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ + && rm -f $file && PATH=../src:$PATH /usr/bin/gmsgfmt -o $file zh_CN.= po -file=3D./`echo ro | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ - && rm -f $file && PATH=3D../src:$PATH /usr/bin/gmsgfmt -o $file ro.po +file=./`echo ro | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ + && rm -f $file && PATH=../src:$PATH /usr/bin/gmsgfmt -o $file ro.po make[6]: Leaving directory `/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/binutils/= bfd/po' make[6]: Entering directory `/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/binutils= @@ -35524,395 +33977,395 @@ cp bfd-in3.h bfd-tmp.h /bin/sh ./../move-if-change bfd-tmp.h bfd.h rm -f bfd-tmp.h touch stmp-bfd-h -/bin/sh ./libtool --mode=3Dcompile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -D_GNU= +/bin/sh ./libtool --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -D_GNU= _SOURCE -I. -I. -I./../include -I./../intl -I../intl -W -Wall -Wst= -rict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -c -o archive.= +rict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -march=athlon64 -O2 -c -o archive.= lo archive.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -D_GNU_SOURCE -I. -I. -I./../include -I./= =2E./intl -I../intl -W -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -ma= -rch=3Dathlon64 -O2 -c archive.c -o archive.o -/bin/sh ./libtool --mode=3Dcompile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -D_GNU= +rch=athlon64 -O2 -c archive.c -o archive.o +/bin/sh ./libtool --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -D_GNU= _SOURCE -I. -I. -I./../include -I./../intl -I../intl -W -Wall -Wst= -rict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -c -DDEFAULT_V= -ECTOR=3Dbfd_elf64_x86_64_vec -DSELECT_VECS=3D'&bfd_elf64_x86_64_vec,&bfd_= +rict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -march=athlon64 -O2 -c -DDEFAULT_V= +ECTOR=bfd_elf64_x86_64_vec -DSELECT_VECS='&bfd_elf64_x86_64_vec,&bfd_= elf32_i386_vec,&i386linux_vec,&bfd_efi_app_ia32_vec,&bfd_elf64_little_gen= 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\ esac ; \ done ; \ echo $f > tofiles /bin/sh ./../move-if-change tofiles ofiles touch stamp-ofiles -/bin/sh ./libtool --mode=3Dlink gcc -W -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissin= -g-prototypes -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -o libbfd.la -rpath /usr/local/lib -= +/bin/sh ./libtool --mode=link gcc -W -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissin= +g-prototypes -march=athlon64 -O2 -o libbfd.la -rpath /usr/local/lib -= release 2.16.1 archive.lo archures.lo bfd.lo bfdio.lo bfdwin.lo cache.lo= coffgen.lo corefile.lo format.lo init.lo libbfd.lo opncls.lo reloc.lo se= ction.lo syms.lo targets.lo hash.lo linker.lo srec.lo binary.lo tekhex.lo= ihex.lo stabs.lo stab-syms.lo merge.lo dwarf2.lo simple.lo archive64.lo = -`cat ofiles` =20 +`cat ofiles` mkdir .libs ar cru .libs/libbfd.a archive.o archures.o bfd.o bfdio.o bfdwin.o cache.= o coffgen.o corefile.o format.o init.o libbfd.o opncls.o reloc.o section.= @@ -35924,7 +34377,7 @@ elf32-gen.o cpu-i386.o ranlib .libs/libbfd.a creating libbfd.la (cd .libs && rm -f libbfd.la && ln -s ../libbfd.la libbfd.la) -libtooldir=3D`/bin/sh ./libtool --config | sed -n -e 's/^objdir=3D//p'`; = +libtooldir=`/bin/sh ./libtool --config | sed -n -e 's/^objdir=//p'`; = \ if [ -f $libtooldir/libbfd.a ]; then \ cp $libtooldir/libbfd.a libbfd.tmp; \ @@ -35941,15 +34394,15 @@ bfd' cd binutils/libiberty && make make[4]: Entering directory `/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/binutils= /libiberty' -if [ x"" !=3D x ] && [ ! -d pic ]; then \ +if [ x"" != x ] && [ ! -d pic ]; then \ mkdir pic; \ else true; fi touch stamp-picdir -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./regex.c -o pic/regex.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./regex.c -o regex.o In file included from ./../include/xregex.h:26, from ./regex.c:199: @@ -35963,47 +34416,47 @@ sion sion =2E/regex.c:4562: warning: signed and unsigned type in conditional expres= sion -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./cplus-dem.c -o pic/cplus-dem.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./cplus-dem.c -o cplus-dem.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./cp-demangle.c -o pic/cp-demangle.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./cp-demangle.c -o cp-demangle.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./md5.c -o pic/md5.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./md5.c -o md5.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./alloca.c -o pic/alloca.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./alloca.c -o alloca.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./argv.c -o pic/argv.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./argv.c -o argv.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./choose-temp.c -o pic/choose-temp.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./choose-temp.c -o choose-temp.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./concat.c -o pic/concat.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./concat.c -o concat.o =2E/concat.c: In function 'concat_length': =2E/concat.c:112: warning: traditional C rejects ISO C style function def= @@ -36020,228 +34473,228 @@ initions =2E/concat.c: In function 'reconcat': =2E/concat.c:194: warning: traditional C rejects ISO C style function def= initions -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./cp-demint.c -o pic/cp-demint.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./cp-demint.c -o cp-demint.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./dyn-string.c -o pic/dyn-string.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./dyn-string.c -o dyn-string.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./fdmatch.c -o pic/fdmatch.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./fdmatch.c -o fdmatch.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./fibheap.c -o pic/fibheap.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./fibheap.c -o fibheap.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./floatformat.c -o pic/floatformat.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./floatformat.c -o floatformat.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./fnmatch.c -o pic/fnmatch.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./fnmatch.c -o fnmatch.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./getopt.c -o pic/getopt.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./getopt.c -o getopt.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./getopt1.c -o pic/getopt1.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./getopt1.c -o getopt1.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./getpwd.c -o pic/getpwd.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./getpwd.c -o getpwd.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./getruntime.c -o pic/getruntime.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./getruntime.c -o getruntime.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./hashtab.c -o pic/hashtab.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./hashtab.c -o hashtab.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./hex.c -o pic/hex.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./hex.c -o hex.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./lbasename.c -o pic/lbasename.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./lbasename.c -o lbasename.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./lrealpath.c -o pic/lrealpath.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./lrealpath.c -o lrealpath.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./make-relative-prefix.c -o pic/make-relativ= e-prefix.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./make-relative-prefix.c -o make-relative-prefix= =2Eo -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./make-temp-file.c -o pic/make-temp-file.o; = \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./make-temp-file.c -o make-temp-file.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./objalloc.c -o pic/objalloc.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./objalloc.c -o objalloc.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./obstack.c -o pic/obstack.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./obstack.c -o obstack.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./partition.c -o pic/partition.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./partition.c -o partition.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./physmem.c -o pic/physmem.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./physmem.c -o physmem.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./pex-unix.c -o pic/pex-unix.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./pex-unix.c -o pex-unix.o =2E/pex-unix.c: In function 'pexecute': =2E/pex-unix.c:94: warning: variable 'out' might be clobbered by 'longjmp= ' or 'vfork' -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./safe-ctype.c -o pic/safe-ctype.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./safe-ctype.c -o safe-ctype.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./sort.c -o pic/sort.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./sort.c -o sort.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./spaces.c -o pic/spaces.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./spaces.c -o spaces.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./splay-tree.c -o pic/splay-tree.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./splay-tree.c -o splay-tree.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./strerror.c -o pic/strerror.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./strerror.c -o strerror.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./strsignal.c -o pic/strsignal.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./strsignal.c -o strsignal.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./ternary.c -o pic/ternary.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./ternary.c -o ternary.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./unlink-if-ordinary.c -o pic/unlink-if-ordi= nary.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./unlink-if-ordinary.c -o unlink-if-ordinary.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./xatexit.c -o pic/xatexit.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./xatexit.c -o xatexit.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./xexit.c -o pic/xexit.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./xexit.c -o xexit.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./xmalloc.c -o pic/xmalloc.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./xmalloc.c -o xmalloc.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./xmemdup.c -o pic/xmemdup.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./xmemdup.c -o xmemdup.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./xstrdup.c -o pic/xstrdup.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./xstrdup.c -o xstrdup.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./xstrerror.c -o pic/xstrerror.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./xstrerror.c -o xstrerror.o -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ - gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ + gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -W= all -Wtraditional -pedantic ./mkstemps.c -o pic/mkstemps.o; \ else true; fi -gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= +gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=athlon64 -O2 -I. -I./../include -W -Wall= -Wtraditional -pedantic ./mkstemps.c -o mkstemps.o rm -f ./libiberty.a pic/./libiberty.a ar rc ./libiberty.a \ @@ -36254,7 +34707,7 @@ mem.o ./pex-unix.o ./safe-ctype.o ./sort.o ./spaces.o ./splay-tree.o ./st= rerror.o ./strsignal.o ./ternary.o ./unlink-if-ordinary.o ./xatexit.o ./x= exit.o ./xmalloc.o ./xmemdup.o ./xstrdup.o ./xstrerror.o ./mkstemps.o ranlib ./libiberty.a -if [ x"" !=3D x ]; then \ +if [ x"" != x ]; then \ cd pic; \ ar rc ./libiberty.a \ ./regex.o ./cplus-dem.o ./cp-demangle.o ./md5.o ./alloca.o ./argv.o = @@ -36302,9 +34755,9 @@ cp binutils/bfd/../include/symcat.h h/symcat.h (cd o && make ../h/new_decl.h) make[4]: Entering directory `/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o' gcc -o grab_defs grab_defs.c -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk plttest.c =20 +I../gcl-tk plttest.c plttest.c: In function 'main': plttest.c:23: warning: statement with no effect plttest.c:24: warning: statement with no effect @@ -36312,120 +34765,120 @@ plttest.c:25: warning: statement with no effect plttest.c:29: warning: statement with no effect plttest.c:33: warning: statement with no effect plttest.c:37: warning: statement with no effect -nm plttest.o | awk '/ U / {a=3D$2;if (k) sub("^_","",a);\ +nm plttest.o | awk '/ U / {a=$2;if (k) sub("^_","",a);\ print a}' \ - k=3D |\ + k= |\ sort | \ grep -v '[^ \t_]_' |\ - awk '{A[++k]=3D$0} END {for (i=3D1;i<=3Dk;i++) \ - printf("MY_PLT(%s)%s\n",A[i],i=3D=3Dk ? "" : ",");}' >plt.h + awk '{A[++k]=$0} END {for (i=1;i<=k;i++) \ + printf("MY_PLT(%s)%s\n",A[i],i==k ? "" : ",");}' >plt.h [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E main.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs > m= ain.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E alloc.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs > = alloc.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E gbc.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs > gb= c.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E bitop.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs > = bitop.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E typespec.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs= > typespec.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E eval.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs > e= val.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E macros.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs >= macros.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E lex.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs > le= x.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E bds.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs > bd= s.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E frame.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs > = frame.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E predicate.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_def= s > predicate.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E reference.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_def= s > reference.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E assignment.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_de= fs > assignment.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E bind.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs > b= ind.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E let.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs > le= t.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E conditional.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_d= efs > conditional.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E block.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs > = block.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E iteration.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_def= s > iteration.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E mapfun.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs >= mapfun.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E prog.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs > p= rog.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E multival.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs= > multival.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E catch.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs > = catch.ini @@ -36436,12 +34889,12 @@ dpp: symbol.d -> symbol.c =2E/grab_defs < symbol.c > symbol.ini rm symbol.c [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E cfun.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs > c= fun.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E cmpaux.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs >= cmpaux.ini @@ -36451,52 +34904,52 @@ dpp: package.d -> package.c =2E/grab_defs < package.c > package.ini rm package.c [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E big.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs > bi= g.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E number.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs >= number.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E num_pred.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs= > num_pred.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E num_comp.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs= > num_comp.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E num_arith.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_def= s > num_arith.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E num_sfun.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs= > num_sfun.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E num_co.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs >= num_co.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E num_log.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs = > num_log.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E num_rand.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs= > num_rand.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E earith.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs >= earith.ini @@ -36521,7 +34974,7 @@ dpp: hash.d -> hash.c =2E/grab_defs < hash.c > hash.ini rm hash.c [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E array.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs > = array.ini @@ -36531,17 +34984,17 @@ dpp: string.d -> string.c =2E/grab_defs < string.c > string.ini rm string.c [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E regexpr.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs = > regexpr.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E structure.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_def= s > structure.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E toplevel.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs= > toplevel.ini @@ -36556,7 +35009,7 @@ dpp: read.d -> read.c =2E/grab_defs < read.c > read.ini rm read.c [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E backq.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs > = backq.ini @@ -36566,7 +35019,7 @@ dpp: print.d -> print.c =2E/grab_defs < print.c > print.ini rm print.c [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E format.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs >= format.ini @@ -36576,107 +35029,107 @@ dpp: pathname.d -> pathname.c =2E/grab_defs < pathname.c > pathname.ini rm pathname.c [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E unixfsys.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs= > unixfsys.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E unixfasl.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs= > unixfasl.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E error.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs > = error.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E unixtime.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs= > unixtime.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E unixsys.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs = > unixsys.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E unixsave.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs= > unixsave.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E funlink.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs = > funlink.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E plt.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs > pl= t.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E fat_string.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_de= fs > fat_string.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E run_process.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_d= efs > run_process.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E nfunlink.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs= > nfunlink.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E usig.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs > u= sig.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E usig2.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs > = usig2.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E utils.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs > = utils.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E makefun.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs = > makefun.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E sockets.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs = > sockets.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E gmp_wrappers.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_= defs > gmp_wrappers.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E clxsocket.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_def= s > clxsocket.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E init_pari.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_def= s > init_pari.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E nsocket.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs = > nsocket.ini [ -e ../h/new_decl.h ] || touch ../h/new_decl.h -gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char= +gcc -DNO_DEFUN -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char= -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o = -I../h -I../gcl-tk -E sfasl.c | sed -e 's:\"[ ]*):\"):g' | ./grab_defs > = sfasl.ini @@ -36731,179 +35184,179 @@ make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre' rm -f o/cmpinclude.h ; cp h/cmpinclude.h o (cd o; make all) make[4]: Entering directory `/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o' -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk main.c =20 +I../gcl-tk main.c main.c: In function 'initlisp': main.c:457: warning: the address of 'j' will never be NULL -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk alloc.c =20 +I../gcl-tk alloc.c alloc.c: In function 'set_maxpage': alloc.c:857: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk gbc.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk gbc.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk bitop.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk bitop.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk typespec.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk typespec.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk eval.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk eval.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk macros.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk macros.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 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-O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk iteration.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk mapfun.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk mapfun.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk prog.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk prog.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk multival.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk multival.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer 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-gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk package.c=20 +I../gcl-tk package.c rm package.c -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk big.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk big.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk number.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk number.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk num_pred.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk num_pred.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk num_comp.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk num_comp.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk num_arith.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk num_arith.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk num_sfun.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk num_sfun.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk num_co.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk num_co.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk num_log.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk num_log.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk num_rand.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk num_rand.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk earith.c =20 +I../gcl-tk earith.c =2E./bin/dpp character dpp: character.d -> character.c -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk character.c=20 +I../gcl-tk character.c rm character.c =2E./bin/dpp sequence dpp: sequence.d -> sequence.c -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk sequence.c=20 +I../gcl-tk sequence.c rm sequence.c =2E./bin/dpp list dpp: list.d -> list.c -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk list.c=20 +I../gcl-tk list.c rm list.c =2E./bin/dpp hash dpp: hash.d -> hash.c -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk hash.c=20 +I../gcl-tk hash.c hash.d: In function 'hash_eql': hash.d:72: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-a= liasing rules hash.d:75: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-a= liasing rules rm hash.c -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk array.c =20 +I../gcl-tk array.c =2E./bin/dpp string dpp: string.d -> string.c -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk string.c=20 +I../gcl-tk string.c rm string.c -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk regexpr.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk regexpr.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk structure.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk structure.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk toplevel.c =20 +I../gcl-tk toplevel.c =2E./bin/dpp file dpp: file.d -> file.c -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk file.c=20 +I../gcl-tk file.c file.d: In function 'rmc': file.d:2329: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size file.d: In function 'Lsocket': @@ -36911,54 +35364,54 @@ file.d:2465: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size rm file.c =2E./bin/dpp read dpp: read.d -> read.c -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk read.c=20 +I../gcl-tk read.c rm read.c -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk backq.c =20 +I../gcl-tk backq.c =2E./bin/dpp print dpp: print.d -> print.c -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk print.c=20 +I../gcl-tk print.c rm print.c -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk format.c =20 +I../gcl-tk format.c =2E./bin/dpp pathname dpp: pathname.d -> pathname.c -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk pathname.c=20 +I../gcl-tk pathname.c rm pathname.c -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk unixfsys.c =20 +I../gcl-tk unixfsys.c unixfsys.c: In function 'truename': unixfsys.c:277: warning: 'getwd' is deprecated (declared at unixfsys.c:15= 1) unixfsys.c:360: warning: 'getwd' is deprecated (declared at unixfsys.c:15= 1) -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk unixfasl.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk unixfasl.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk error.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk error.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk unixtime.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk unixtime.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk unixsys.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk unixsys.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk unixsave.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk unixsave.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk funlink.c =20 +I../gcl-tk funlink.c In file included from funlink.c:978: xdrfuns.c: In function 'siGxdr_write': xdrfuns.c:82: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break stric= @@ -36966,79 +35419,79 @@ t-aliasing rules xdrfuns.c: In function 'siGxdr_read': xdrfuns.c:144: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break stri= ct-aliasing rules -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk plt.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk plt.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk fat_string.c =20 +I../gcl-tk fat_string.c fat_string.c: In function 'fSprofile': fat_string.c:53: warning: null argument where non-null required (argument= 1) -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk run_process.c =20 +I../gcl-tk run_process.c run_process.c: In function 'siLmake_socket_stream': run_process.c:455: warning: value computed is not used -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk nfunlink.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk nfunlink.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk usig.c =20 +I../gcl-tk usig.c usig.c: In function 'unblock_signals': usig.c:93: warning: 'sigblock' is deprecated (declared at /usr/include/ge= ntoo-multilib/amd64/signal.h:181) usig.c:93: warning: 'sigsetmask' is deprecated (declared at /usr/include/= gentoo-multilib/amd64/signal.h:184) -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk usig2.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk usig2.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk utils.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk utils.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk makefun.c =20 -gcc -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 = +I../gcl-tk makefun.c +gcc -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 = -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -I..= /gcl-tk -c sockets.c -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk gmp_wrappers.c =20 -gcc -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 = +I../gcl-tk gmp_wrappers.c +gcc -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 = -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -I..= /gcl-tk -c clxsocket.c -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk init_pari.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk init_pari.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk nsocket.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk nsocket.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk sfasl.c =20 +I../gcl-tk sfasl.c =2E./bin/dpp gcl_readline dpp: gcl_readline.d -> gcl_readline.c -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk gcl_readline.c=20 +I../gcl-tk gcl_readline.c rm gcl_readline.c -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk bcmp.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk bcmp.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk bcopy.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk bcopy.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk bzero.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk bzero.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk user_init.c =20 -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= +I../gcl-tk user_init.c +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -= O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -= -I../gcl-tk user_match.c =20 +I../gcl-tk user_match.c echo '#include "make-init.h"' > new_init.c echo 'void NewInit(void){' >> new_init.c cat main.ini alloc.ini gbc.ini bitop.ini typespec.ini eval.ini macros.ini= @@ -37056,11 +35509,11 @@ ri.ini nsocket.ini ./sfasl.ini /home/axiom/silver/obj/linux/lib/cfuns-c.i= ni /home/axiom/silver/obj/linux/lib/sockio-c.ini gcl_readline.ini >> new_= init.c echo '}' >> new_init.c -gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe = +gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe = -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -I../gcl-tk new_init.c -o= new_init.o rm -f gcllib.a -ar qc gcllib.a bcmp.o bcopy.o bzero.o user_init.o user_match.o=20 +ar qc gcllib.a bcmp.o bcopy.o bzero.o user_init.o user_match.o ranlib gcllib.a make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o' make h/cmpinclude.h @@ -37081,19 +35534,19 @@ ls: cannot access ../clcs/*.o: No such file or directory ls: cannot access ../clcs/clcs_*.lisp: No such file or directory make[4]: Entering directory `/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/unixport= ' -gcc -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 = +gcc -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 = -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -c -o sys= _pre_gcl.o sys_pre_gcl.c rm -rf gmp mkdir gmp -a=3D"" ; \ +a="" ; \ for i in $a ; do \ cp $i gmp/$(echo $i | sed -e 's,\.\./,,1' -e 's,/,_,g') ; \ done touch gmpfiles rm -rf bfd mkdir bfd -a=3D"../binutils/bfd/binary.o ../binutils/bfd/section.o ../binutils/bfd/c= +a="../binutils/bfd/binary.o ../binutils/bfd/section.o ../binutils/bfd/c= offgen.o ../binutils/bfd/dwarf1.o ../binutils/bfd/dwarf2.o ../binutils/bf= d/reloc.o ../binutils/bfd/bfd.o ../binutils/bfd/archive64.o ../binutils/b= fd/elf.o ../binutils/bfd/targets.o ../binutils/bfd/elf32-i386.o ../binuti= @@ -37132,7 +35585,7 @@ demint.o ../binutils/libiberty/pex-unix.o ../binutils/libiberty/xexit.o" = ; \ for i in $a ; do \ cp $i bfd/$(echo $i | sed -e 's,\.\./,,1' -e 's,/,_,g') ; \ - done=20 + done touch bfdfiles rm -rf libpre_gcl.a ar rs libpre_gcl.a ../o/alloc.o ../o/array.o ../o/assignment.o ../o/backq= @@ -37196,13 +35649,13 @@ touch raw_pre_gcl_map gcc -o raw_pre_gcl /home/axiom/silver/obj/linux/lib/cfuns-c.o /home/axiom= /silver/obj/linux/lib/sockio-c.o \ -L. -Wl,-Map raw_pre_gcl_map -lpre_gcl -lm -lgmp -lreadline -lncurs= -es -lc -lgclp /home/axiom/silver/obj/linux/lib/libspad.a =20 +es -lc -lgclp /home/axiom/silver/obj/linux/lib/libspad.a cat init_pre_gcl.lsp.tmp | sed \ -e "s#@LI-VERS@#(`cat ../majvers`.`cat ../minvers`) `date`#1" \ -e "s#@LI-EXTVERS@#`cat ../minvers | cut -f2 -d.`#1" \ -e "s#@LI-MINVERS@#`cat ../minvers | cut -f1 -d.`#1" \ -e "s#@LI-MAJVERS@#`cat ../majvers`#1" \ - -e "s#@LI-CC@#\"gcc -c -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fs= + -e "s#@LI-CC@#\"gcc -c -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fs= igned-char -pipe \"#1" \ -e "s#@LI-LD@#\"gcc -o \"#1" \ -e "s#@LI-LD-LIBS@#\" -lpre_gcl -lm -lgmp -lreadline -lncurses -lc -= @@ -37239,7 +35692,7 @@ ls: cannot access ../clcs/*.o: No such file or directory ls: cannot access ../clcs/clcs_*.lisp: No such file or directory make[4]: Entering directory `/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/unixport= ' -gcc -march=3Dathlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 = +gcc -march=athlon64 -O2 -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 = -fomit-frame-pointer -I/home/axiom/silver/lsp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -c -o sys= _gcl.o sys_gcl.c rm -rf libgcl.a @@ -37301,7 +35754,7 @@ touch raw_gcl_map gcc -o raw_gcl /home/axiom/silver/obj/linux/lib/cfuns-c.o /home/axiom/sil= ver/obj/linux/lib/sockio-c.o \ -L. -Wl,-Map raw_gcl_map -lgcl -lm -lgmp -lreadline -lncurses -lc -= -lgclp /home/axiom/silver/obj/linux/lib/libspad.a =20 +lgclp /home/axiom/silver/obj/linux/lib/libspad.a =2E/libgcl.a(sys_gcl.o): In function `gcl_init_system': sys_gcl.c:(.text+0x35bd): undefined reference to `init_gcl_cmpwt' sys_gcl.c:(.text+0x363a): undefined reference to `init_gcl_predlib' @@ -37371,13 +35824,10 @@ make: *** [all] Error 2 --------------070201030909010107080208-- - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 17:52:37 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: 20070916.01.tpd.patch (bug 103 fix) The call @@ -42324,17 +40774,11 @@ index 0000000..59e6838 +\end{document} - \start Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:45:45 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Alfredo Portes - (Alfredo Portes) Subject: re: hyperdoc on windows - <1d67a53c0709211706t61cc848bi9d2b8620f92d6aa1@mail.gmail.com> - <200709220146.l8M1kYN18543@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list >> At the moment, due to the great work by Arthur Ralfs, I'm making >> progress on the browser-based version. I now have some of the @@ -42957,7 +41401,7 @@ index 7cbe49b..e3d84c9 100644 +20070810 acr src/interp/i-output.boot added mathml patch +20070810 acr scr/interp/setvars.boot add mathml patch +20070810 acr scr/interp/setvart.boot add mathml patch -+20070810 acr Arthur C. Ralfs ++20070810 acr Arthur Ralfs 20070810 tpd src/interp/metameta.lisp removed (unused) 20070810 tpd src/interp/ccl-depsys.lsp remove metameta 20070810 tpd src/interp/parsing.lisp remove metameta @@ -45080,18 +43524,11 @@ index 92e8825..bfa2f14 100644 \begin{verbatim} ----------------------- The openmath Option ------------------------ - - \start +Date: 22 Sep 2007 09:11:16 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Tim Daly Subject: re: hyperdoc on windows - <1d67a53c0709211706t61cc848bi9d2b8620f92d6aa1@mail.gmail.com> - <200709220146.l8M1kYN18543@localhost.localdomain> - - <200709220345.l8M3jj418667@localhost.localdomain> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 22 Sep 2007 09:11:16 +0200 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -45117,17 +43554,10 @@ But I can well imagine that the different branches (forks) of axiom go in different directions here. This will make life for algebra contributors much more enjoyable, I guess. (irony) -Martin - - - - \start Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:14:38 -0700 From: Arthur Ralfs To: list -Message-id: <46F53F6E.5080807@shaw.ca> -MIME-version: 1.0 Subject: axserver patch This is a multi-part message in MIME format. @@ -45199,15 +43629,11 @@ Arthur --------------040808060702040001070803-- - - \start Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:39:35 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Arthur Ralfs - Sep 2007 09:14:38 -0700) Subject: Re: axserver patch -Cc: list Thanks. Already found and made them. I used double quotes rather than "\ " to delimit the -R arguments @@ -45218,22 +43644,11 @@ suddenly decided to start syntax checking my html files. But it only does that when I go thru your interface. Browsing the file directly works fine. Any suggestions about what causes that? -Tim - - - \start Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:56:45 -0700 From: Arthur Ralfs -Subject: Re: axserver patch To: Alfredo Portes -Message-id: <46F5494D.9020804@shaw.ca> -MIME-version: 1.0 - -Cc: list - -This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------000102000309070603050800 +Subject: Re: axserver patch Alfredo Portes wrote: > Hi Arthur, @@ -45743,17 +44158,11 @@ before starting the Axiom server. \end{document} --------------000102000309070603050800-- - - \start Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:06:18 -0700 From: Arthur Ralfs -Subject: Re: axserver patch To: Tim Daly -Message-id: <46F54B8A.70704@shaw.ca> -MIME-version: 1.0 - <200709221639.l8MGdZn19178@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list +Subject: Re: axserver patch root wrote: > Thanks. Already found and made them. @@ -45787,18 +44196,11 @@ function to Did you make any changes to the axiom.xml file? -Arthur - - - \start Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:41:50 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Arthur Ralfs Subject: Re: axserver patch - - <46F5494D.9020804@shaw.ca> -Cc: list Hi Arthur, @@ -45813,19 +44215,11 @@ I added the file as a pamphlet page: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxServer -Alfredo - - - \start Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:49:54 -0700 From: Arthur Ralfs -Subject: Re: axserver patch To: Tim Daly -Message-id: <46F555C2.5020100@shaw.ca> -MIME-version: 1.0 - <200709221639.l8MGdZn19178@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list +Subject: Re: axserver patch root wrote: > Thanks. Already found and made them. @@ -45843,19 +44237,10 @@ root wrote: Should have mentioned I use nxml-mode in emacs to make sure my xml is well formed. -Arthur - - - \start Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:43:50 -0400 From: Tim Daly -To: Arthur Ralfs, Alfredo Portes, - Alasdair McAndrew - Sep 2007 10:49:54 -0700) - <200709221639.l8MGdZn19178@localhost.localdomain> - <46F555C2.5020100@shaw.ca> -Cc: list +To: Arthur Ralfs, Alfredo Portes, Alasdair McAndrew Subject: axserver and hyperdoc Arthur, @@ -45889,20 +44274,10 @@ up to the help pages for the 95 domains I just documented. Thanks for breaking this barrier. -Tim - - - \start Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:05:50 -0700 From: Arthur Ralfs To: Tim Daly -Message-id: <46F5C9FE.4000505@shaw.ca> -MIME-version: 1.0 - <200709221639.l8MGdZn19178@localhost.localdomain> - <46F555C2.5020100@shaw.ca> - <200709230043.l8N0hok19286@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list Subject: Re: axserver and hyperdoc root wrote: @@ -45946,23 +44321,10 @@ the style sheet should go in a